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Old 03-24-2008, 06:34 PM   #21
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Your way off on the material. Prolly run closer to 5k. You are also way off on your labor. 2 guys should knock that thing out in 4 days easy. Day 1 set all posts. Day two framing/joist hangers Day 3 Run out flooring and cut stringers. Day 4 Cut post tops, install railings, install steps. Total job $7500 or around $13.00 per foot. We would come in at just under 8k, but we would talk him down on size because nobody needs a deck that large. Especially someone on a budget.
You must have the fastest two humans on earth. When I read things like this I wonder if I am THAT slow or I am just a lot more conscientious about the final product. Granted, I don't build PT decks, but screwing off a 24 x24 deck takes about two days in and of itself.

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Old 03-24-2008, 06:40 PM   #22
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So Funny!! The Contractor that broke me in, The Warren Ove,,Sigh I really miss that guy,,, told me the two things that screw up the Construstion Trade are fireman and school teachers. J.
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You must have the fastest two humans on earth. When I read things like this I wonder if I am THAT slow or I am just a lot more conscientious about the final product. Granted, I don't build PT decks, but screwing off a 24 x24 deck takes about two days in and of itself.

Totally agree with you Greg.

Also, to Brock, I can't speak to your market or your personal business costs AND maybe it's just me but is $13/sq. ft. for a PT deck including railings, stairs and handrails really a reasonable price in your area?

Because, I can't for the life of me imagine doing a deck that size, properly, for that low a price. And, BTW, properly is they only way I would do it.
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You must have the fastest two humans on earth. When I read things like this I wonder if I am THAT slow or I am just a lot more conscientious about the final product. Granted, I don't build PT decks, but screwing off a 24 x24 deck takes about two days in and of itself.
I would pay you during your lunch break and simply tell you to find a new line of work.

Standard P/T deck in Kansas on new construction is 10' x 16' you will get $800 to build it (labor only). View-out basements decks are 5' above ground. You better hope that you are working alone and you can do two in a week. You have to carry your own insurance.
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Thank God I don't work in Kansas.......


Note to self-NEVER move to Kansas.
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Standard P/T deck in Kansas on new construction is 10' x 16' you will get $800 to build it (labor only). View-out basements decks are 5' above ground. You better hope that you are working alone and you can do two in a week. You have to carry your own insurance.
I guess I won't be building any decks in your area then

I wouldn't bother to get out of my truck for $5/sq. ft. to build ANY deck!
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I wouldn't even demo and remove an old deck for $5 a foot!
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We continue to break the previous years record for new home construction and it is a dog eat dog business. You have to be damn good and damn fast and willing to work sunup to sundown 7 days a week or you aint gonna make it in new construction here. Every builder cuts the next builders price and passes it down the chain to the little guy.
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We continue to break the previous years record for new home construction and it is a dog eat dog business. You have to be damn good and damn fast and willing to work sunup to sundown 7 days a week or you aint gonna make it in new construction here. Every builder cuts the next builders price and passes it down the chain to the little guy.
Working sunup to sundown 7 days a week means find another way to pay your bills.
Damn good and damn fast usually don't go together. Why don't you branch out and find some better-paying, slower-paced custom decks? Sure would beat that craziness you're in.
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We continue to break the previous years record for new home construction and it is a dog eat dog business. You have to be damn good and damn fast and willing to work sunup to sundown 7 days a week or you aint gonna make it in new construction here. Every builder cuts the next builders price and passes it down the chain to the little guy.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That's not work, that's slavery of sorts.

You'd be better off working at Best Buy.
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I would pay you during your lunch break and simply tell you to find a new line of work.

Standard P/T deck in Kansas on new construction is 10' x 16' you will get $800 to build it (labor only). View-out basements decks are 5' above ground. You better hope that you are working alone and you can do two in a week. You have to carry your own insurance.
Slow and steady wins the race....
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Greg, anyone who is building builder decks is not building CUSTOM DECKS like we do. I have seen where a builder deck builder has tried to get into the custom market. Wow they suck.
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We continue to break the previous years record for new home construction and it is a dog eat dog business. You have to be damn good and damn fast and willing to work sunup to sundown 7 days a week or you aint gonna make it in new construction here. Every builder cuts the next builders price and passes it down the chain to the little guy.

That right there is a "record" I NEVER want to even come close to breaking.
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Greg, anyone who is building builder decks is not building CUSTOM DECKS like we do. I have seen where a builder deck builder has tried to get into the custom market. Wow they suck.

Exactly!

I'd rather take 2 weeks on one deck and make $5-10K then bust my balls and make $400 a week building crap for a builder.

Brock, that 10'x16' deck that you built for $800 (divided by 2) is what I get paid $500-$1,000 to take down and haul away and then make another $5-10K to replace with a properly built, attractive deck.
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Your way off on the material. Prolly run closer to 5k. You are also way off on your labor. 2 guys should knock that thing out in 4 days easy. Day 1 set all posts. Day two framing/joist hangers Day 3 Run out flooring and cut stringers. Day 4 Cut post tops, install railings, install steps. Total job $7500 or around $13.00 per foot. We would come in at just under 8k, but we would talk him down on size because nobody needs a deck that large. Especially someone on a budget.
Thank God I dont work in Kansas!!! I worked in Illinois as a handyman for awhile and couldnt make any money out there!!! Its better to bail hay and get cracked by a whip by your Master!!!
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this guy's name wouldn't happen to be jeff huss would it?

as an aside, based on the location, size and aspect ratio of this deck, taking into account the spans, # of footings and irc, you're talking about 2x10 joists, double 2x12' beams and footings with 22" dia, I think your a little short on your material figures. either way forget it and move on
No, His name isnt Jeff Huss
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Working sunup to sundown 7 days a week means find another way to pay your bills.
Damn good and damn fast usually don't go together. Why don't you branch out and find some better-paying, slower-paced custom decks? Sure would beat that craziness you're in.
We don't work any "new construction" jobs. We have built a handfull of new homes over the years though. I have a buddy that works the decks on new homes, that's how I know the pricing. The siding subs for new const. here are in the same boat and I have another friend that does that. He works a regular job 2nd shift and slaps siding on first shift. He said he would go broke if it was his only job and he is lightning fast with about 15 years experience.Tons of work but you have to be super efficient. Dozens of guys trying to undercut you daily. If you need two days to screw down a deck and can get somebody to pay you to do it then more power to you. All you would get here is the chance to give your estimate.
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Them Kansas Boys are a whole nother smoke, The Joy,,,who does my Taxes,lives in Kansas City. Its total prefab in Her area very nice homes but deftntlay corparate contracting. Stab and Grab kinda deal. I feel for ya Bo,its not all that better over here in Cow Town. J.
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We continue to break the previous years record for new home construction and it is a dog eat dog business. You have to be damn good and damn fast and willing to work sunup to sundown 7 days a week or you aint gonna make it in new construction here. Every builder cuts the next builders price and passes it down the chain to the little guy.
You are proud of this? It sounds like it. I thought you said you don't new construction jobs. Trolling trolling trolling...........
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If you need two days to screw down a deck and can get somebody to pay you to do it then more power to you. All you would get here is the chance to give your estimate.
All screws are in a straight line, spaced exactly the same on each board, sunk to the same depth. There's only so fast you can go, but what do I know.
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