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Old 01-31-2008, 06:41 PM   #1
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Hi I'm new to the site and hope someone in the Philadelphia area can answer my questions.

I do general handyman work and have my own licensed business. I have a number of skilled fields, one of of which is electrical. In my many years, Iwork for electrical contractors, as an electricians' helper, and actually, serviced clients on my own, as an electrican. In those days, you didn't need to be licensed. Probably have about 30years of experience. Of course, not in every aspect of the field. Anything I did not know, I didn't touch. I keep up with the codes as best I can. I did then, and do now, mostly lighting. Recessed and track.......nothing too involved.

Recently, a building I worked in for a number of years, asked me for my electrical license and of course I couldn't provide it. I had to canx the job I had scheduled.

If anyone knows, what, if anything should, or can I do to get licensed in Phila. How does it work? Are there local and or state licensing???? help if you can.

Thanks in advance, Mike

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Old 01-31-2008, 07:05 PM   #2
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(Skip the fancy fonts and bolding - it just makes it difficult to read. Use those features for emphasis. TY)


You might just be SOL.
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In December 2006, Philadelphia Councilman Juan Ramos introduced an amendment to Title 9 of the Philadelphia Code, “Regulation of Businesses, Trades and Professions.” The amendment would add a new Chapter, “Certified Electricians and Telecommunications Technicians,” which proposes that electricians and telecommunications technicians performing work in the city have at least 10,000 hours of documented, full-time practical experience working on electrical or telecommunication systems and have completed an apprenticeship program.
Those who have owned a business for at least seven years or have six years of documented experience would be exempt from the requirements. Currently, the City of Philadelphia requires only one individual with an electrical contractor's license per firm. That person may then hire other workers, regardless of their training or experience.
Looks like 10,000 hours or six years of DOCUMENTED full time experience.



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§9-3104. Electrician Certificates and Electrician Apprentice Permits.
(1) Electrician Certificates. To obtain an Electrician’s Certificate pursuant to this Chapter, an applicant must pay an application fee of $150 and comply with (a) or (b) or (c) of this subsection:

(a)New Applicant.
Provide documentation that the applicant has successfully completed a Registered Electrician Apprenticeship Program as defined by § 9-3101(5) of this Chapter and pass an examination for an Electrician’s Certificate as prescribed by the Department; or

(b)Reciprocity.
Meet the qualifications for reciprocity pursuant to §9-3106 of this Chapter; or

(c)Grandfathered.
Meet the requirements of §9-3107 of this Chapter during the one-year grace period established by that section and apply for such certification within the time frame specified in that section.


§9-3107. Grace Period for Transition to Full Certification Requirements.
(1) No person shall be required to possess any certificate or permit mandated by this Chapter in the first 180 days from the effective date of this Chapter. During the period from 181 days after the effective date of this Chapter through one year after the effective date of this Chapter, no person shall be required to possess any certificate or permit mandated by this Chapter provided he or she has submitted the necessary certificate or permit application and required supporting information within 180 days from the effective date of this Chapter.
You might have missed the grace period ?


I could be wrong...here is the application if you can use it.
ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR or ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR APPLICATION

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Mike, you would have to find the electricians you worked for previously, and have them document your time with them.

In Maryland, it would have to be the Master license holder, not necessarily the business owner.
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:05 PM   #4
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Mike,

You have fired me up here. Just new around here you now have to have an EC license and Master Electrician assigned to your company. As long as you have master electrician sitting in a lounge chair and sign the forms you can have all the inexperienced labor needed to get work done to NEC code. My father has been working for a solid 45 yrs in electric only (25yrs of green tags) and can't get grandfathered in to a master electrician although he was deemed this in his union back when he was forman for Donanld Trumps first real estate deal. I was a little baby puking up crap and ****ting about then. Now, local governments tell me he can't be grandfathered in. He has to take 10hr test. No if's, and's, and butt's! He's 65 yrs old and he's not gonna pass that test. It was hard enough for me and I was young and fresh out of college. I could throw him in a rats nest..going away for a couple hours and when I return he will have it all figured out. He can still run circles around me on complex problems. Pisses me off that all you have to do is have a degree from deVry institute and that makes it all ok??

So I feel your pain.

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Mike, you would have to find the electricians you worked for previously, and have them document your time with them.

In Maryland, it would have to be the Master license holder, not necessarily the business owner.
You know I've worked all my life and will have to till ever. I'm near 70 now and just trying to make a living. BS....... thanks for you input and concerns.
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We are looking for an ex employer, Robert W, he lived on the 3000 blk of Vista St. in NE Phila Pa. Place of business was located at 2747 N 2nd St. Phila. Pa.
***XX was his wifes name. I'm trying to document my employement there, many years ago.

Also, looking for a res,com,Ind, Electrician, named Gene or Eugene ******X. Lived in Northeast Phila,Pa. No known address.

If you can help please contact .........thanks Mike the handyman.


The old man lookin to get a license after 35yrs Ha.!!!thanks in advance

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