Union

anderson.freddi · 07-24-2007, 03:42 PM

I am trying to make a decision of going union or non-union. Can someone tell me if my knowledge of a union is accurate in the sentences below? (I know there is more to a union than this but this is just my general idea of a electrical union)
* Union employees work on larger projects.
* Union employees have a higher salary and better benefits.
* Union employees have hard workers and hard slackers who get paid the same amount.
* Union employees don’t have a set schedule.
* Union employees may only work half of the year, or can may work at one place for 3 yrs.
* After a project is complete your name goes on the bottom of the list for the next project.
* Union employees have to pay a fee to remain in the union even if unemployed on the waiting list.

MechanicalDVR · 07-24-2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson.freddi

I am trying to make a decision of going union or non-union. Can someone tell me if my knowledge of a union is accurate in the sentences below? (I know there is more to a union than this but this is just my general idea of a electrical union)

* Union employees work on larger projects.
For the most part and munis, gov,school,hospitals.
* Union employees have a higher salary and better benefits.
More often than not.
* Union employees have hard workers and hard slackers who get paid the same amount.
The latter are the ones who get laid off.
* Union employees don’t have a set schedule.
Not in my 21 years.
* Union employees may only work half of the year, or can may work at one place for 3 yrs.
Three contractors in those 21 years.
* After a project is complete your name goes on the bottom of the list for the next project.
Depends on many factors, but not so likely.
* Union employees have to pay a fee to remain in the union even if unemployed on the waiting list.

Dues only.

Celtic · 07-24-2007, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicalDVR

Dues only.

..and they are tax deductible.

MechanicalDVR · 07-24-2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celtic

..and they are tax deductible.

Good point

JustaFramer · 07-24-2007, 07:38 PM

I don't know where you are at. Depending on location halls are empty on the west coast.
Yes there are lums aka slackers however they are not asked to work over time or get invited to other jobs and are the first to go when the crew must be down sized.
I know guys that are working 70 hours a week when there is a rush. That equates to about 2500 a week.

JustaFramer · 07-24-2007, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celtic

..and they are tax deductible.

I believe they are. Even so what I get in just medical coverage makes up ten fold for dues. 90% coverage on medical, dental, and vision for the whole family. Which is apart of a health and security package. If I get hurt and can not work I get a month check.
If I die so how some way my funeral is paid for and my wife gets a monthly check.
My grandmother still recieves a monthly check from when my grandfather died in 86.

Magnettica · 07-25-2007, 12:06 AM

I'm not in the union yet (IBEW 164) but I am already dealing with this problem.

Quote:

Union employees have hard workers and hard slackers who get paid the same amount.

I am one of those hard workers. But I can't let the slacker dude bother me because he does not have to pay the bills that I do. And yes it does bother me sometimes.

Al Taper · 07-25-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnettica

I'm not in the union yet (IBEW 164) but I am already dealing with this problem.

I am one of those hard workers. But I can't let the slacker dude bother me because he does not have to pay the bills that I do. And yes it does bother me sometimes.

I am much like yourself. A hard worker. And I have a pride in the work i do.That my problem is I care too much. But what I run into the slacker will always have work.

JustaFramer · 07-25-2007, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Taper

. But what I run into the slacker will always have work.

I don't think I would want to work union on the east coast.

KillerToiletSpider · 07-25-2007, 07:58 PM

Every local has a collection of slugs that want to get paid to do nothing, in our local they are the last guys hired and the first ones laid off. When I was still relying on the hall for work, I never went more than two weeks being out of work, even when things were extremely slow, while the slugs struggled to get enough hours in to cover their benefits for the year. The union tracks your hours, and knows how many contractors you work for and how long, it doesn't take them long to tag the guys that need to be tagged.

CE1 · 07-25-2007, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderson.freddi

I am trying to make a decision of going union or non-union. Can someone tell me if my knowledge of a union is accurate in the sentences below? (I know there is more to a union than this but this is just my general idea of a electrical union)
* Union employees work on larger projects.
* Union employees have a higher salary and better benefits.
* Union employees have hard workers and hard slackers who get paid the same amount.
* Union employees don’t have a set schedule.
* Union employees may only work half of the year, or can may work at one place for 3 yrs.
* After a project is complete your name goes on the bottom of the list for the next project.
* Union employees have to pay a fee to remain in the union even if unemployed on the waiting list.

What you are asking is just scuttlebutt. Some of what you are asking may or may not be true. Now days I really don’t think here is any real difference between union /non-union. You should be looking for a company to work for, not an employee association. If you like doing residential work, look for a company that has a good reputation in the residential field and apply for work there. Interview the employers not the employees.

Carry On!

07-24-2007, 03:42 PM	#1
anderson.freddi View Profile anderson.freddi Registered User Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (3) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Registered User Trade: electrician USN Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3	Union I am trying to make a decision of going union or non-union. Can someone tell me if my knowledge of a union is accurate in the sentences below? (I know there is more to a union than this but this is just my general idea of a electrical union) * Union employees work on larger projects. * Union employees have a higher salary and better benefits. * Union employees have hard workers and hard slackers who get paid the same amount. * Union employees don’t have a set schedule. * Union employees may only work half of the year, or can may work at one place for 3 yrs. * After a project is complete your name goes on the bottom of the list for the next project. * Union employees have to pay a fee to remain in the union even if unemployed on the waiting list.

07-24-2007, 07:38 PM	#5
JustaFramer View Profile JustaFramer Priced In Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (3,292) Photos (26) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Priced In Trade: Exiled For Life Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lynnwood,WA Posts: 3,292	Re: Union I don't know where you are at. Depending on location halls are empty on the west coast. Yes there are lums aka slackers however they are not asked to work over time or get invited to other jobs and are the first to go when the crew must be down sized. I know guys that are working 70 hours a week when there is a rush. That equates to about 2500 a week.

07-25-2007, 07:58 PM	#10
KillerToiletSpider View Profile KillerToiletSpider The Grand Wazoo Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (3,089) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity The Grand Wazoo Trade: It blowed up real good! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,089	Re: Union Every local has a collection of slugs that want to get paid to do nothing, in our local they are the last guys hired and the first ones laid off. When I was still relying on the hall for work, I never went more than two weeks being out of work, even when things were extremely slow, while the slugs struggled to get enough hours in to cover their benefits for the year. The union tracks your hours, and knows how many contractors you work for and how long, it doesn't take them long to tag the guys that need to be tagged. __________________ A flush is better than a full house.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread:

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
what would you do? company issues. union electrician/traffic signal program	CNC	Electrical	5	08-14-2007 08:32 PM
I need union member advice.	BKA	General Discussion	12	05-29-2007 01:15 PM
Union vs Non Union WAR ???	CheckmateOhio	General Discussion	25	03-20-2007 04:55 PM
joining the union with some experience???	ko_jun	Electrical	3	10-20-2006 10:29 AM
Getting into the union	Spieluhr	Construction	2	08-11-2006 09:04 PM

Analysis of New Contractors Insurance Program in CA

Customer Testimonials ? I'll take them if you aren't using the...

Greenlee Glo-Stix...

DeWalt Self-Level...

Union

Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Re: Union

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Already Have an Account?