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Electrical Contractor
Trade: Electrical / HVAC
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 6
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Shunt Trip Breaker
Are shunt trip breakers required by code on all commercial elevators? My GC is installing a two floor commercial elevator, 240 volt single phase and said no shunt trip needed. I don't think so! Any thoughts!
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DGR,IABD
Trade: Electrical; Commercial and Residential Service
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central PA
Posts: 9,680
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Re: Shunt Trip BreakerQuote:
You'd have to check with your prevailing state or local elevator codes. There is nothing in the NEC that requires a shunt trip. Be advised that if you do use a shunt trip to comply with either local codes or ASME A17.1, you are NOT PERMITTED by the NEC to have this shunt trip disconnect power to the machine room lighting, car lighting and HVAC, and hoisway/pit lighting. Oddly again, the NEC does permit you to disconnect door control power, so people can be trapped in the elevator. I advise you to hunt down the local prevailing elevator code, because you may have amendments and the GC might be right. Often, states have amended Requirement 2.8.2.3.3 of A17.1 to exempt HYDRAULIC elevators (not traction elevators) that rise 50 feet or less from the shunt trip requirement. Here's what the NEC says about the elevator's disconnecting means (read especially 620.51(B) which says that the shunt trip is permitted when used by the sprinkler system, but it doesn't say required. The Elevator and Escalator Safety Code does require it, not the NEC): Quote:
Last edited by mdshunk; 08-27-2005 at 10:34 PM. |
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DGR,IABD
Trade: Electrical; Commercial and Residential Service
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central PA
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Re: Shunt Trip Breaker
I thought that I should add that if your building is not sprinklered, that also frees you from the shunt trip requirement 2.8.2.3.2 of ASME A17.1
Last edited by mdshunk; 08-28-2005 at 11:12 AM. |
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Electrical Contractor
Trade: Electrical / HVAC
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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Re: Shunt Trip Breaker
MD, thanks for responding.I was hopping you would respond as you seem to have all the answers and are willing to share. Thanks.
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DGR,IABD
Trade: Electrical; Commercial and Residential Service
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central PA
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Re: Shunt Trip BreakerQuote:
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Registered User
Trade: Security/Fire
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: Shunt Trip Breaker
Is it requred to have it monitored by fire alarm?
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Service & Repairs
Trade: Electrician
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Rahway, New Jersey
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Re: Shunt Trip Breaker
Marc, can u tell me who's going to win the Superbowl this year? I want to go to Vegas and place a wager. Thanks.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: helicopter
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Re: Shunt Trip Breaker
Elevators carry passengers and its code requirements are justifiably unique and different from traditional electrical requirements.
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Registered User
Trade: General Building Contractor (Public Works)
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Re: Shunt Trip Breaker
I was under the impression shunt trip are required when the building is sprinkled. If the building is not, shunt trip are not required.
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