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Old 12-16-2017, 08:00 AM   #1
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Should You Still Wire For Cable TV


I'm building a few spec houses. I was wond wordering, in a world of smart tv's and WiFi, if hard wired cable is necessary anymore? I know not everyone has a smart TV yet, but this just seems like a sensible approach for the future of homes. Let me know your thoughts. I'm open to advice if I'm overlooking a good aspect. Thanks
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Old 12-16-2017, 08:37 AM   #2
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I'm building a few spec houses. I was wond wordering, in a world of smart tv's and WiFi, if hard wired cable is necessary anymore? I know not everyone has a smart TV yet, but this just seems like a sensible approach for the future of homes. Let me know your thoughts. I'm open to advice if I'm overlooking a good aspect. Thanks
I never do and I get bitched at about it every time. Buyers have to pay the cable company to pull the wire.

The better question is where do you run the wires to? Above the fireplace is usually expected but after that I don’t know where everyone is going to put ****.

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I get into the cable vs satellite all the time. They enter buildings in different locations, so they don't use the same wiring most of the time.

Long term, It's a nightmare.
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What about this thought? It's getting to the point where you can purchase a bottom end smart TV for $200. You can position a smart TV on any wall that has an electrical outlet
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There is only so much WiFi can do. If you want solid consistent, high speed data, then you are going to want hard wired connections. You can do drops in various common areas and leave it at that. To me it's a selling point.
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I would do coax and cat5 to the 2-3 most likely locations. Typically the living room, MB and kitchen or office. Doesn't cost much and it's a nice touch.

In a few years there is going to be enough understanding of wifi repeaters that people will stop running into issues.
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I would do coax and cat5 to the 2-3 most likely locations. Typically the living room, MB and kitchen or office. Doesn't cost much and it's a nice touch.

In a few years there is going to be enough understanding of wifi repeaters that people will stop running into issues.
Can you get enough bandwidth to stream HDTV off WiFi?
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Can you get enough bandwidth to stream HDTV off WiFi?
Absolutely. We canceled our cable years ago. All the smart TVs in the house stream HD just fine. Even running multiple TVs at once. Of course, we have good cable internet where I live.....

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Can you get enough bandwidth to stream HDTV off WiFi?
Sure. I actually run a very basic internet package(15Mbps) and have no issues with streaming 1080p while also using the internet on a couple other devices. If you want to stream UHD and/or play video games online then you will probably need 25Mbps or more.
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I put cable in the bedrooms and living rooms. Also an outlet in the garage. Doesn't cost much, and is good for the customers. And, as most of my customers are 55+, they still want land lines most of the time. Again, its easy and cheap to put it in during the rough-in.
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I think we are a little ways off to dump cable lines but not very far off. Wireless technologies keep advancing and AT&T is working on data over your electrical lines.
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and AT&T is working on data over your electrical lines.
That’s what they’ve been saying since I was in high school.
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That’s what they’ve been saying since I was in high school.
Did they mention wifi and phones you can watch HD movies on?
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That’s what they’ve been saying since I was in high school.
The leviathan moves slowly but with purpose. I serviced fax machines back in the early 80's when they were worth money, and often enjoyed fly-on-the-wall status while doing my work. I recall hearing AT&T engineers discussing delivery of television services via the phone network back then.

Fast forward a few decades and an anti-trust breakup, and voila. FIOS.
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I think that putting coax in is still a good idea to at least the main rooms.
Just finished up a nice big remodel, the owner just has internet, no cable tv. We still keep the coax to hook up to a big over the air antenna in the attic. We get about 30+ free channels around here. Hooked to all the smart TVs for streaming everything.
I also think that coax has a good chance of having other uses down the line for communication/ technology
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I think that putting coax in is still a good idea to at least the main rooms.
Just finished up a nice big remodel, the owner just has internet, no cable tv. We still keep the coax to hook up to a big over the air antenna in the attic. We get about 30+ free channels around here. Hooked to all the smart TVs for streaming everything.
I also think that coax has a good chance of having other uses down the line for communication/ technology
I don’t think coax is going anywhere, you still need it for the cable box and cable modem. Most people want the cable box right by the tv so you definitely run it to the main living area but there’s no way to know what wall in a bedroom they’ll want a tv. You can usually rule out the window and closet walls but that still leaves 2walls plus the location on those walls.
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Cat5is good enough to stream TV in a house. There's an alternate wiring method that allows you to plug in either a special network cable or a land line, but there is some loss of s/n when you do it that way.

Considering DSL has been around a long time, and there are already network solutions for business using existing electrical wiring, I'd imagine the problem can be solved on the power distribution side as well. It would be a very expensive build out, IMO.
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You probably should, but a lot depends on the kind of services offered in the area you are at
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We install an enque panel in every house like this one in my master closet. We run Cat 6 and RG6 to all low voltage locations at the same time we wire for speakers and sound systems security ect. .. In tv areas it will be one a tv locations and one below with a future tube installed for cords as we insulate interior walls

we find out their provider before we start and if they don't have one we pick dish on demand, who our internet guys service. You have them come out to the house after a frame to tell us where to terminate the RG6, on my house it was in the corner where my exterior chimney was as I chose that location and they approved.



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