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Old 09-04-2017, 08:36 PM   #21
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16 foot ceilings is overkill. 10 is probably more than enough. Keeps the lights lower and you'll need less.
I would like you to fit a tri-axle in a 10' booth and lift the body
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A friend of mine installed 160w LED shop lights. He bought 100 of them for his workplace fabrication/welding shop. They are 20000 lumens each. Bought them from a China supplier direct. UL approved and ETL. Holy crap. You need sunglasses on.
Do you have any link where he bought them?
The cheapest I have found them is $200 EACH
I really dont think spending $20,000 on lights would be a very smart financial decision
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yeah, not just a spray booth for cars
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Didn't notice the Autobody trade. We don't get many here.
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Didn't notice the Autobody trade. We don't get many here.
Because it's not a car forum?

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Hardly. Electricians, Masons, Siding, Windows, Cleanup etc. Automotive is just more of a specific trade. But if you're talking paint, we've got a lot of guys here that do that. Auto and Finishing painting are different but very similar.
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installed the 2'x2' LED troffer lights at HD for the last boathouse job and three of them lit up a 12x32 area like it was daylight.

use to run 8' HO fluorescents in my Delaware shop b/c they would start at temp's down into the 30s (non-HO needed higher temps to get them going). That was old technology, only thing I'll recommend now is LED's.
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16' ceiling is pretty far up there, consider two banks of lights (two switches). one for normal use and an additional bank for intense viewing, like auto body finish (I'm guessing at this...). You could even have one switch switch both banks on and have the second bank switched (in series if that makes sense).
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16' ceiling is pretty far up there, consider two banks of lights (two switches). one for normal use and an additional bank for intense viewing, like auto body finish (I'm guessing at this...). You could even have one switch switch both banks on and have the second bank switched (in series if that makes sense).
I planned on having at least 2 sets of lights in in the main shop on 2 different switches.

Also the booth would also have 2 sets. One for just routine work and the second on also when spraying.

But you lost me on the banked part
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bank is a term for a set of similar objects
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If you go to led, one of the nice options is to set them up with motion sensors. That way they stay off until there is activity in area. It is very common in warehouses. I need some sensors for our shop, but just haven't had time to get to it.
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I like the electrical cost of LEDs. I'm not particuarly fond of the light they put out. It's a bit harsh and it is a multi point source light system that gives you lots of near parallel shadows. Most people don't really notice it, but I do.

Putting a diffuser over the lights alleviates the issue of the point sourceness of the lights, but the harshness of the lights is still there.

3000K seems to be the most pleasant color for me but it is on the yellow side if you are doing colors. 6000K (+/- 200K) with a CRI of 90+ is best for colors.

My sprayroom working area is about 18'x14'x9' tall. I have 4 fixtures with 2 bulbs each in them. At my work height (30") under the lamps is 1250 lux and between them is 900 lux. The lights I use are T5HO54w, 5900K, CRI 93+ and have an output of 5200 lumens each. So I have 4 fixtures with about 10K Lumens each to cover 250 sq ft with an illumination avg of about 1000 lux. The lamps are about 6' from my work surface. Illumination decrease by the square of the distance. So you gonna need a lot of fixtures.

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