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Old 07-17-2008, 03:24 PM   #1
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I performed an energy audit on a home in Jersey City. The wiring job on the place was a bit scary. I posted a few examples below. I am surprised how many homes I walk into that have problems such as this. I can't insulate this home until all these problems are taken care of. At least the knob and tube wiring has been disconnected (at least I think its disconnected).

Time to start looking for an electrician I can sub this stuff too....













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Old 07-17-2008, 04:28 PM   #2
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That's pretty typical of what you'll find in pretty much any old house.
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I would suggest to the homeowner that she have the JCFD on speed dial.

The company I work for is out of Bayonne and this is the type of work I love doing unless of course it's a bad neighborhood then no thanks.
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I would suggest to the homeowner that she have the JCFD on speed dial.

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Might be a good idea.. The gas lighting pipes are still live.
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I would suggest to the homeowner that she have the JCFD on speed dial.

The company I work for is out of Bayonne and this is the type of work I love doing unless of course it's a bad neighborhood then no thanks.
sense when is that type of work NOT in a bad neighborhood\

I have a friend who installs windows, doors and insulation in low income houses for the gov. He sees stuff like that all the time and like you said cannot insulate over it. It really pisses him off when he drives 2 hours to a job and it cant be done. The h.o. have to pay an electrician in order to get thier free insulation. Usually dont happen witch results in lost income for my buddy too.

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sense when is that type of work NOT in a bad neighborhood


Yeah, good point.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:24 PM   #7
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Like said above this is typical of older homes, it is sad when you see this kind of wiring in newer homes too. Good luck with it, proper repair wont be cheap and i myself would be sure it is inspected too.
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Looks like the guy that did this work is laughing all the way to the bank with all the money he's saving on locknuts, wire nuts and box covers.

I have seen plenty of this type of work, I'd would like to see the person(s) that is doing it, who are they, do they look funny, did they fall on their head as a child? A place I worked at in the city, they ran the electric wires (not romex, not bx, not in conduit of any kind) across the floor between sleepers then put a floor over them. And the neutral or hot was green, there was no GC. I just don't get it, to much work to put the fittings in the box with a locknut, why? It's as if the person went out of their way to do it poorly. Who in their right mind would do that and think it's okay? I know, it's not uncommon but I'm always outraged by it.


I take it back (but since I already typed it, I'm leaving it), my old neighbor was a "handyman" (janitor at a bank) and did some fancy electric work.



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Like said above this is typical of older homes, it is sad when you see this kind of wiring in newer homes too. Good luck with it, proper repair wont be cheap and i myself would be sure it is inspected too.
Sure do see this in newer homes...





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Sure do see this in newer homes...




heh... at least they used a GFCI haha.
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If that's in a basement....

Those joists don't even need to be notched for a wire that size.
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If that's in a basement....

Those joists don't even need to be notched for a wire that size.
I think it's the kitchen, way to ruin a joist.


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I think it's the kitchen, way to ruin a joist.


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I had a GC do that one time to finish a basement. He thought it would save me some effort. He ended up having to get an engineer sealed detail print for the repair to the joists. If he'd have waited for me, it would have literally only taken 20 or 30 minutes to disconnect the cable at one end, drill some holes and run it though, then connect it back up. As it was, his job was delayed a couple weeks waiting on the engineer and inspections.
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I suspect whoever did the connector thing forget the lockrings in truck and didn't want to walk to the truck as well as take it all back apart and rewire. Lazy fools. It's keeps us busy though...thats the good side
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I had a GC do that one time to finish a basement. He thought it would save me some effort. He ended up having to get an engineer sealed detail print for the repair to the joists. If he'd have waited for me, it would have literally only taken 20 or 30 minutes to disconnect the cable at one end, drill some holes and run it though, then connect it back up. As it was, his job was delayed a couple weeks waiting on the engineer and inspections.
Big help, hopefully he learned a lesson and told two GC friends. It's funny how they always want to help, but if you ask them to haul the lumber or concrete around back, they all of a sudden have something else to do.


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This was typical of the wiring in my house when I first moved in.
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