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Old 01-08-2017, 11:28 AM   #21
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Yup. those blades make noise. I darn sure wouldn't want one on my roof telegraphing that vibration/thrumming through the structure...
I remember when they were installing this sucker many people were concerned about the sound. They thought they would have to build an earth burm to deal with it. Well once it was up it really wasn't that bad, just kinda made a soft wooshing noise.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:14 PM   #22
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I remember when they were installing this sucker many people were concerned about the sound. They thought they would have to build an earth burm to deal with it. Well once it was up it really wasn't that bad, just kinda made a soft wooshing noise.
Normally the are not to bad when running , it is just when they go into shut down mode because of to much wind that they are really bad.
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Normally the are not to bad when running , it is just when they go into shut down mode because of to much wind that they are really bad.

I remember the first time that I heard of windmills shutting down due to higher winds, I was flabbergasted. Seems ironic that a windmill would need to shut down when it is windy. I now understand the concept. They are designed to maximize the prevailing winds. Building ones that could remain on in high winds would be negated by their cost and also their performance during ordinary days.
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I remember the first time that I heard of windmills shutting down due to higher winds, I was flabbergasted. Seems ironic that a windmill would need to shut down when it is windy. I now understand the concept. They are designed to maximize the prevailing winds. Building ones that could remain on in high winds would be negated by their cost and also their performance during ordinary days.
The big bad windmills have gearing in them that when it reaches so many RPM it down shifts to keep the blades spinning a safe speed.
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I remember when they were installing this sucker many people were concerned about the sound. They thought they would have to build an earth burm to deal with it. Well once it was up it really wasn't that bad, just kinda made a soft wooshing noise.
That little 24 ft tall irrigation windmill we put up - you can hear it & feel it when you rest your hand on the girder.

Doesn't look much different than the one on my folks old farm.
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Wind mills are a waste of your money if you are on the Grid, (unless you steal money from your neighbors through income tax transfer schemes)

By a quality trailer/skid mounted generator you can use at work and run your house/shop during the ever more common blackouts that will occur as the Utilities build more unreliable wind mills/solar part time power.

natural gas/LP or diesel....

Don't forget to ask your homeowners insurance company how much more a 90-120' wind tower with a 30,000.00$ generator on top will add to your homeowners policy, oh yea, the battery room too....
Don't forget the lightening arrestors system to protect the 30K$ generator/lightening Rod....
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Wind mills are a waste of your money if you are on the Grid, (unless you steal money from your neighbors through income tax transfer schemes)

By a quality trailer/skid mounted generator you can use at work and run your house/shop during the ever more common blackouts that will occur as the Utilities build more unreliable wind mills/solar part time power.

natural gas/LP or diesel....

Don't forget to ask your homeowners insurance company how much more a 90-120' wind tower with a 30,000.00$ generator on top will add to your homeowners policy, oh yea, the battery room too....
Don't forget the lightening arrestors system to protect the 30K$ generator/lightening Rod....
Wow we have windmill farms over here.
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Solar and wind are big here in the high plains of NM.

My personal observations are thus.

If you need a battery bank then the cost will offset any savings if not cost more then being on the grid. And deep cycle batteries made now are not near what they were 10 years ago and sure cost more. My boat seems to need one every 2 years now used to be 5 years and I take care of them right

solar is fine until HAIL hits ! happens often here

You can rig up a wind generator from certain automotive alternators that with minimal reworking puts out AC current from 65 to 90 amps with right gearing and a steady 15 mph + wind. seen em, tested em, admired em, and planning to put one on the shop at the lake house.

Next thing I found most recently, large wind generators will produce RF interference. My new shop is 70 miles from the nearest FM radio stations, in between is a line of hundreds of generators and reception sucked if they are moving......(they are 15 mi away and you can see them). I built a directional antenna and can grab clear FM from 180 miles away with mountains in between just fine from any other direction. No wind or too much and I can get the close stations.
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The big ones slaughter birds by the thousands and the only way they are practical is with gas fired idler plants to pick up the slack when the wind dies down or gets too high.

I've seen some small ones that are vertically mounted that are supposed to be very quiet and don't have the bird blender problem but for large scale electrical generation there's better ways.

If enough of them were ever deployed to make a difference, heaven forbid, it would probably disrupt the laminar flow of the wind and cause more damage than any supposed environmental benefits of the systems. Also there is a cooking of the books on doing the cost analysis on them IMO.
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The big ones slaughter birds by the thousands
I have a environmentalist friend that works at this one and he counts the birds and bats everyday. We don't kill em be the thousands over here. We have smart birds that's why.
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The big ones slaughter birds by the thousands and the only way they are practical is with gas fired idler plants to pick up the slack when the wind dies down or gets too high.

I've seen some small ones that are vertically mounted that are supposed to be very quiet and don't have the bird blender problem but for large scale electrical generation there's better ways.

If enough of them were ever deployed to make a difference, heaven forbid, it would probably disrupt the laminar flow of the wind and cause more damage than any supposed environmental benefits of the systems. Also there is a cooking of the books on doing the cost analysis on them IMO.
We go to Oregon all the time and I am just amazed at how many there are now . Have you ever figure out how fast those blades turn? Seems to me 60MPH or more. I have wondered how long it will be before the environmentalists complain about them .
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We go to Oregon all the time and I am just amazed at how many there are now . Have you ever figure out how fast those blades turn? Seems to me 60MPH or more. I have wondered how long it will be before the environmentalists complain about them .
Really??? The ones they use here have transmissions in them that keep the blades turning slow. You can see them turning here, they always go the same speed in 5 mph wind or 60mph wind.
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I have a environmentalist friend that works at this one and he counts the birds and bats everyday. We don't kill em be the thousands over here. We have smart birds that's why.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/1...ind-farm-blaze
Like these smart ones?
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Like these smart ones?
That looks like food for the homeless and the welfare people to me?? That's not a dead bird it's a fresh free range meal!
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Firmly for new tech like wind farms and solar.

Wind farms and even a single unit bought wisely can provide cheaper electricity over the long term.

But the reality is they do kill birds.
They do cause RF interference.
They do generate noise.

I don't think they'll survive the transition over the long term.

We're a weird bunch of people us Americans: we have no problem letting a decade long war in the Middle East kill hundreds of thousands, destroy countless cities and villages - but kill one damned Bald Eagle HERE and it's a different story.

Personally, I don't want to see even one eagle get slashed - but I feel the same way about people too.

There's a huge mess of them in the Thumb region of Michigan. Making some good power too. The locals are asking for a moratorium on any new farms. There's some valid complaints and maybe some hogwash.

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Let's get rid of highways. They kill far more critters than any old windmill farm.
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Most posters are supposed to be business people on this site, but evidently few can see how the current generation of wind mills will NEVER repay the money spent to build them, and that every KiloWatt of wind power sold increases everyone's electric bill to satisfy the Believers of the Church of Anti-Carbon and its running dog conmen.

NOT ONE large windmill has been built with 100% private money in the last 10 years.....

How much would pay an employee that showed up only 30% of the time and performed fractional work output?
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The big ones slaughter birds by the thousands
Perspective the is the key and spreading misinformation does not make one look good. Oil spills kill far more birds

Straight from the "Tree Huggers" themselves.
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~the only way they are practical is with gas fired idler plants to pick up the slack when the wind dies down or gets too high.
So you are saying most of the time the gas fired plants are not needed, and wind generation is practical? Sounds good to me

Europe is far ahead of us in renewable energy.
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Wow. People have trouble staying on topic don't they. Quick answer to the original question is yes you can do that. In fact since most electric companies allow you to feed electric back to the grid for credit it just might be the best way to do what you are looking for.

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Yes, If allowed to by zoning, and if you don't mind spending more than you ever recover in the market value of the electricity created....

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