Is This A Regulation In Your City? *stud Guards*

CHI LOW VOLTAGE

now i use them sometimes, i had a contract at a nice suburb of chicago and my god the city is a real pain in the ass. stud guards are needed EVERYWHERE in the house. even if my wires are 3"+ in the stud where the drywallers cant get to it, guess what i need stud guards there too.

had one of my installers come to the site 3 times because the city kept finding these 'infractions'

Speedy Petey

Do you mean nail plates?

Chicago is a real difficult place I see. Must be politics central!

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mdshunk

The NEC says 1-1/4" from the finished surface. Any closer and you need a nail plate. Lord only knows what Chicago did to bastardize this code section.

Now then, if you're talking about a "boot plate" used to mend a stud that you drilled too big of a hole in, that's a horse of another color.

Bill

Ain't no telling, I have found that the code book is like a bible, depends on ones interpretation!

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GregS

Good thing they are cheap and easy to install.

Does the electrician, plumber and HVAC guy have to do the same thing? Or are they picking on you?

Bill

Here in VA we plumbers do not use them, we use Stud Guards which run about 15.00 a piece

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GregS

What is a stud guard vs a nail plate?

Here I buy a box of 50 nail plates, 1.5x3" for $15.

I use them for vac pipes on holes through 2x4s.. and sometimes on wire runs, but not often since I keep them out of range of the drywallers. (it only takes one screw up to learn that lesson)

Dustball

I'm pretty sure he meant stud braces/stud shoes which wraps around the stud.

fridaymean

Funny, Usually they don't care if you use a plate if it is communications wiring, only romex. Some places will require those simpson ties if you cut too much of a bottom or top plate. Or if you hole is too large most places will require you to place one of the stud mender contraptions shown above. What burb are you talking about being a pain, Lombard?

GregS

Can't say I have ever seen those used here on anything by anyone.

brian11973

I heard all about $75 "nail plates" when I worked for a company a while back. Never saw them, they were for too big of a hole in floor joists.

Can some one please post a pic of a $15 "nail plate"?

Nail plates are about $15 a box. "BOCA plates" ( 4" x 6" , handy for the home runs sometimes)that the plumbers use here on top & bottom plates are about $.75 . The Simpson Stud Guards are only about $2-3.

To all of the LV guys out there. You could learn something. It would be that the Code REQUIRES ALL ELECTRIC HOLES TO BE 1 -1/4 INCHES FROM THE EDGE!!!!!!!!!!! INCLUDING YOU WORK!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sick & tired of MY job failing because YOU have never read the Code & think it does not apply to you!

mdshunk

Actually, that's not totally accurate. The holes have to be 1-1/4" from the finished surface. If you're putting on 1/2" sheetrock, the hole can be as close as 3/4" to the edge. This is a very common misconception that the actual hole has to be 1-1/4" back on the lumber itself. Read the code section for yourself, if you care to, then impress the inspectors.

orson

You think it's a pain to put them on, imagine how much fun it is to come back through, remove them, chisel the stud out, and remount the nail plate(I actually call them "stud guards" too, not sure where I picked that name up) flush to the stud before the drywaller starts hanging.

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