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New Guy
Trade: Landscape and Irrigation Contractor
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mesa Arizona
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Professional Electrician Assistance Request
Installed a 110V 20 amp breaker,1/2" emt out of the box (3 lin. ft.) to 3/4" pvc underground. I have a (160') maximum run to a 20 amp GFI. I used 12 guage conductors. Purchased a new Rolair electric air compressor with a big "f !@#% g" motor. The breaker trips when I attempt to operate the unit.. The unit is set up for 110/115V 20 amps. Do I need to pull 10 guage? Is 10 guage adequate? Any recommendations for an easy method to replace the 12 with 10? I have multiple 45 and 90 degree sweeps (line is buried 16"). I am also operating a window mount A/c unit and a low voltage light transformer (300 watt) on the same circuit .. I am sorry that I do not have amperage draws on the A/c or transformer.
Thanks for constructive input...
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Trade: electrician
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orange county California
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Re: Professional Electrician Assistance Request
YOu need multiple 20 amp circuits. That distance you need two hots a neutral and ground. And split up outlets on two separate circuits,
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Re: Professional Electrician Assistance Request
Why not add a fridge, toaster and hair dryer to "balance" out the load.
Voltage drop? .
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Trade: Electrical; Commercial and Residential Service
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Professional Electrician Assistance Request
I see your problems as being twofold:
1) You don't know how to do electrical work properly, safely, or professionally. 2) You did it anyhow. Just from what you've written, I can say that you've overloaded one circuit, exceeded the degrees of total bend between pull points, and you havn't accounted for voltage drop. Additionally, because of the other items of the circuit, you've screwed yourself with regard to your ability to upsize the OCPD to take advantage of the special rules that apply to starting motors. |
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Re: Professional Electrician Assistance Request
I'll quote a bumpersticker i saw once. "Wiring is not a hobby hire a licensed electrician"
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Re: Professional Electrician Assistance Request
IBEW is running a campaign out here about not using unqualified electricians (anyone that is not union), the commercial is pretty bad, I'll see if I can find it.
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Re: Professional Electrician Assistance Request
You wouldn't want to hire some of the union guys I work with.
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Trade: Electrician
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: California
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Re: Professional Electrician Assistance RequestQuote:
Ok Constructive input, ill try. -Calculate your voltage drop -dedicate a 20A circuit to your compressor, why is it on a GFCI? DIG UP ALL YOUR PIPE AND DO NOT EXCEED 360 degrees when you total your bends without a pull-box. Read the NEC. The guys are right, don't do it if you dont know how to, and then ask really obvious questions. (its very obvious you have overloaded the circuit) and butchered the install. Hope this was constructive. |
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