Power To Kitchen Island

bmartin

What is the correct way to run electric to a kitchen island. I figured on romex to a splice box in the attic and stranded from there through the conduit into a junction box in the island. The power comes from another small appliance outlet not the panel. Thanks for any help.

mdshunk

The design you propose, while unusual, is compliant. Any wiring method that puts the required receptacle(s) on the island that complies with article 300 is compliant, and therefore correct.

jproffer

Why not come from the bottom? A basement or crawl space. If the panel is above that level, I would take it down through a wall then back up through the floor under the cabinets, then there's no conduit coming down the middle of your kitchen. Just MHO, there may be circumstances I don't know about (probably are).

__________________
Jim P.

old27

interesting question.

bmartin

It is a slab foundation. Conduit is stubbed to location but i cannot pull romex through a conduit. All wire must be rated for wet location like thhw.

bmartin

Is there another typed of sheathed cable I can use in the conduit and still make the connection in the the other receptacle box without having to change wire types. How do you usually get power to an island in a slab foundation.

bigjay

I usually mount a bracketed 4" square box with 1/2" knockouts in lieu of the plastic single gang box (at kitchen wall receptacle)and put a single gang raised metal ring for finish. I have pvc pipe in the slab and transition to steel/aluminum flex at each end(from pvc pipe to box). Then you can pull
stranded/solid thhn/thwn wire from point to point. If you run stranded, pigtail
with solid wire in the boxes when you splice to go to your finish(devices,recepts). This way makes the transition easy.

bmartin

Big Jay
Thank you I like that idea better than having to climb in the attic after sheetrock is finished to fish some wires. Also the location of the 4" box would be considered the dining room (it's in the kitchen but not along a countertop). I believe that plug can be on the same circuit as the small appliance circuit. Is that correct?

Teetorbilt

We use a variety of methods to get to the now popular island.

A decorative and sometimes supportive column is the least expensive and least desireable, everyone wants 'open space' today.

Second is raised flooring in the kitch. Raise the entire floor on sleepers and pass the conduit underneath. Done gradually enough, I like the results.

Third, notch the slab. You have to be careful here due to supporting walls, etc. It's also dirty.

Fourth, dig under the slab and backfill or go to small directional boring. Very expensive and your 'last ditch' effort.

__________________
You can't solve you're problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems.

Albert Einstein

mdshunk

How much power we bringing to this island? If it's just a 20 amp circuit for a receptacle or something, you might have a cable option if that is still your most desirable option. UF cable is rated for a wet location. If your pipe is at least 3/4", you can get a 12-2 UF in it compliantly and without any problem. You'll basically use the stubbed up conduit as a sleeve, and not a complete raceway system. Terminate the UF cable just as you would ordinary romex. This will permit you to use the plastic wall boxes like you originally wanted to.

Just more ideas for the brain...

PipeGuy

While pricey, I like the new wireless convenience outlets. For a couple of hundred bucks you can get an AC router that'll serve as many as 6 new outlets depending on their rating (15A r 20 A) and distance from the router. The wireless outlets themselves are about $35 on sale.

bmartin

Pipeguy
Where do you buy those from I have never seen them before. Do they work near the ocean in Arizona?

seattle_sparky

I'm waitin for those new wireless services. It's the next thing i'm going to get after my Doctor Who telephone booth.

bigjay

bmartin- in answer to your question you can put the dining receptacles on with your kitchen small appliance cicuits.In some areas you can use blue plastic ENT inside the wall along with standard pvc fittings and glue. I've
had some inspectors not allow the use of ENT. This is even quicker to install.
You could use the UF cable like Md mentioned also, I don't use the stuff, just out of personal preference.

Romex-Racer

Pull UF cable through the conduit.

__________________
Whoop! Whoop!