Pig-ignorant Arrogant DIY Ingratitude

RobertWilber

I am totally annoyed.
I spend a lot of my time giving advice, which is the product of my 35 years experience in the trade, to people for free.
I just had an exchange with some snot-nosed kid jackleg who got himself in trouble doing work at someone else's home [he suggested it was a friend's house].
.. and HE gets an attitude about my response, the worthless, arrogant little twerp. They wouldn't even let me PUBLISH the letter he last sent me here because of the language. I mean, I swear when I'm angry, but I at least usually have the good grace to not put it in print.
I am thinking of posting the entire exchange [edited for general consumption, of course] on my weblog ... or is that too petty?
What do you folks all think?
Anybody know how to set up a poll about this?
Anybody want this cretin's address to send him an email telling him what an ungrateful knucklehead he is?
Maybe I should add a page to my website just dedicated to this buffoon ...

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PressurePros

Bob, I might cross him in the field. Shoot me a pm so I know whom not to recommend.

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frenchsparky

Robert:

I just got done with one forum not too long ago it got pretty nasty there and i did asked the mod to lock it down before it got out of hand and about ready to swear in french

i will post the link here so you get the idea http://forum.doityourself.com/showthread.php?t=302618

My s/n on that forum is french277v so you will know who is the person talking in there

i almost fell off the chair how stubborn that person was doing i think i will bring this >>> to get this idiot strighten out


Merci , Marc

robertc65

I for one would love to read the edited version of the exchange.

Rob

Speedy Petey

POST IT.

Robert, it's funny. I just this minute came from posting on another DIY site about how folks ignore replies or forget where they posted. We all go through the trouble of helping and how many just blow off the advice or don't even come back to check for replies.

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mdshunk

It's for that very reason that I very rarely post on DIY boards anymore. It's not that I've changed my feelings on being helpful to people, but I the ingratitude begins to wear on me after a while. I know I've got in the 10's of thousands of posts on several DIY boards from former years, but very seldom do I visit them any more. Give the folks the answer they asked for, spend the time to compose as clear and as comprehensible of a reply as you know how to, and they often want to argue with you about your technically correct answer. No, thanks. I used to serve suppers sometimes at a men's shelter down the road a bit. When you handed the men their food, they'd say "thank you", and didn't complain about having chicken two nights in a row.

dougchips

I always complained about the chicken and you never seemed to care.

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dirt diggler

Why help them then??

(You too French Sparky)


MD - think of the billable hours for 10s of thousands of posts ...




why help the idiots in the first place??? For one - electric work is probably the LAST trade that needs to be "learned in a forum" because there is a personal safety matter.

That's their business though - i could care less.


But why spend the time helping them???

Speedy Petey

I have asked myself this many times.
You know what, they are going to do it anyway. With or without our help. And I know for fact that the vast majority of this type of person will NOT hire a pro. They feel they can do it and WILL do it.
Like I said, same as the dope at H-D giving dangerous advice. Many times I have stopped as I was walking by and gave my two cents. Maybe I insulted the store worker. I COULDN'T care less. If they don't know what the hell they are talking about, AND are not trained in this field, they should not be giving out advice.

Maybe our going to DIY boards, and butting in at H-D is simply self satisfaction. Who knows.
I know I feel a little better if someone comes back and says "I'm glad I asked. I now know I did it right."

There are always the ones that obviously have no clue and you just say "Hire a pro".
THEN if they don't take your advice your conscience is still clear and you say Oh well.

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dirt diggler

hey if it's self satisfaction - at least that's a reason


and - yeah - you're right - these are the same people (at the DIY boards) who are PITAs (in most cases i would assume)

i dunno ... maybe im just not nice

frenchsparky

I know one thing i try to help but i know where i can draw my line to speak the correct words

but unforetally i gradually get less typing in the DIY because they are cowdung some of them have no respect anymore not like in pro fourm which they can understand the sisuation better than the DIY and some of DIY peoples can be a Jacka** so i just dont reply not too often as i should but also the safey issue there many of them dont understand the electrical system at all i did gave them a nice pointers but if they ingored it they can do it on thier own risk becase they have no common sense at all

Merci ,Marc

HBSparky1

I love when you tell someone how to do something and someone else won't name names, but he's hard to understand if that tells you anything, tells them something different or "you don't need a multimeter, just a voltage tester" good god, do you think I am telling people this stuff on a board to make money...geez, I should start posting my paypal account info so I can charge for advice, maybe people would listen more. Sorry for the ranting and raving, I just really have a problem with people who circumvent something a professional has said

mahlere

HB,

For those of us who have realized that running head first into a brick wall, without a helmet, over and over, is more productive than posting on a DIY forum, please name names.

Thank you

jproffer

If you go to the DIY site and look around a bit...ahem, especially in the ELECTRICAL forum , you'll figure it out in pretty short order. Again, he is hard to understand...not only in his speech, but also in his reasoning behind the methods he chooses to employ. It's one thing to choose to do some of the things he does on his own home, but it's another to contradict everything that anyone else has said about doing a job right and (heaven forbid ) safely.

He's not the only one, but he's the one I notice the most.

Since we're talkin about it, HB you're not the only one that really gets annoyed by this.

Just for the record, I have NO problem with someone doing their own work or wanting to do, or learn how to do, things the RIGHT way and with safety first and foremost.

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HBSparky1

Well Put, same here

mahlere

HB and JP....screw both of you

i just wasted an hour and I have NFI who or what you are referring too...

good luck.

jproffer

And good luck to you as well

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concretemasonry

You never get ahead by getting even.

You just waste time, which is lost.

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HBSparky1

mahlere, his name is kui****??? something or other

terrynistler

don't think to bad at this stage
Melting wire is a very sersious situation.. I hope and think you shouldn't think for the worst at this time...

but You need to buy a tester from HD, best is those with sound/light to indicate a live wire, of course, if it could tells the voltage as well would be good too... but don't need the University Multi-meter type device, that is over kill and difficult to use...

anyhow... go to the switch, found if you can find a live wire... if you do... power to the switch is good... if there is no live wire to the switch... you have a more difficult situation...

assume you have live wire to the switch... then you need to find out if this live wire can be transferred to the device by switching on/off to the light switch... may be your device is broken/burned then you need to find the wire connection to the lighting device and test the voltage there....

make sure you turn off/on the breaker to perform these tests appropriately...

I think a device/switch is burnt easier than a wire... if it is a wire... you have a bigger issue which requires rewiring of some sort..


Come on he is entertaining. I actually read them all so I can get a chuckle......