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Contractor
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Metal Halide Lamp/ballast
if a metal halide 250w lamp is placed in a fixture with a 400w ballast, what would happen?
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DGR,IABD
Trade: Electrical; Commercial and Residential Service
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballast
You'll get sucked into a super massive black hole.
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Contractor
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballast
I looked at the sticker on the fixture and it's a Cooper MHQF-GS/C73-400. The label is a bit worn, but looks to call for a M59 lamp.
The lamp which was installed (and not working) is a M58 250w...would a smaller lamp typcially damage the ballast? |
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballast |
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Service & Repairs
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballast
I'm not positive, but I believe that a 400 watt ballast would be good enough for a 250 watt bulb. I would install the 400 watt bulb as the ballast indicates.
Do you have enough microfarads? |
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Contractor
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballast
caps were apparently fine-new lamps and everything is operational
didn't hear from anyone who shared knowledge, so here it goes. 8 250w HID's were installed in 400w fixtures. some of the lamps began to fail within 2 weeks; within 3 months 75% of the lamps failed with one of those having a random start issue (not heat related). Magnetica referenced cap's-not sure if it was a joke or not, but the caps for a 400w fixture are larger than a 250w fixture. looking at a lamp, it appears to have a small inductor inside...can anyone confirm that? If so, the lamp could have altered the load on the ballast and been burned out with too much voltage. Maybe this is a question better suited for an EE. |
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballastQuote:
Same deal----> My wife could do the brakes on my car and they might even work for a short time, but it's not right and should be done right the first time! |
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Service & Repairs
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballast
My comment on microfarads was serious but I could see how u might think I was joking around (capacitance is measured in farads). Have u checked the capacitor to see if it's working correctly? Maybe you have some sort voltage drop issue that hasn't shown up till now.
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Pro
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballast
Bulbs need to be matched to the ballast, the ballast specs a bulb for a reason, but as magnettica said, do a capacitor test.
this is good material http://www.advancetransformer.com/up...ting-guide.pdf |
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Ummm wire guy?
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballastI thought it opens the doorway to the magical land of Narnia?!
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Re: Metal Halide Lamp/ballastQuote:
Lamp/ballast mismatch is the leading of premature lamp failure not caused by product defect. Best to do it right the first time at higher cost, than doing it right the second time at the lower cost of hack job + the cost of right job. |
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