Main V.s. Load 2 Gang Meter

 
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:07 AM   #1
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Main V.s. Load 2 Gang Meter


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Old 8 fuse panel feeding whole house single family (200 in UL tapped to 100amp wire to old fuse panel).

We had to convert to 2 family.

To be extra safe we put in a main 200 amp OCD directly against welded jbox with main (old) Underground Laterals just inside basement. Out of main we fed 4/0 SE about 4 ft into 2 gang meter box. Out of meter box we ran 2 2/0 Feeder SE cables (about 4ft ) to each 150amp Main breaker panels (Apt1,Apt2).
Inspector failed saying since we put in a 200 amp main breaker everything downstream must be 4/0 even the load wires going to 150 amp main sub panels. In this case it took all day. Tight quarters and such. I did'nt argue since I pick my fights wisely. We passed on second.

Looking for comments on this setup. Why have I seen 100's of 300 amp main overheads feeding 4 or 6 bank meters with 1/0 (100amp) load to 100 amp panels and thats ok? Potentially they can draw 320 - 480 amps if everyone fires everything up. I understand demand factors I'm just saying.

If I wouldnt have put in main it would have been fine he said. I said I was trying to be a little extra safe.

Anyone else run into this?

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Old 10-05-2007, 11:27 AM   #2
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learn to pick your battles better...should've fought that one bubbles....md or celtic will be along shortly to tell you why...
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Thats exactly whats in my house.(Old 8 fuse panel feeding whole house single family) Its sucks when you blow a fuse and have to go buy one
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:09 PM   #4
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The main disconnect isn't a problem at all. What is a bit of a problem is that it appears that you ran 3-wire to the meter can and 3-wire from the meter can to the panels. That's a no-no. That's your real violation, and not the fact that you have a 200 amp disconnect and you're taking advantage of the tap rules. The inspector needs a refresher on the 10 and 25 foot tap rules .
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Actually they were 2/0 feeders (4 wire) treated them as sub-panels. We had 3 big inspection jobs coming up and he was in bad mood that day. Thats all a factor since he inspects all our work (75 jobs a year min). I insisted all he can get is 80% of 150amp main going through the 2/0 feeders and he kept mumbling about the 200 main and everything downstream. I said whatever paid 26.50 and was done with it. So no one out there would see a problem with this??
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So no one out there would see a problem with this??
with what?
folding because the EI has a bad day?

What do you do when you have a bad day?
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