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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed Inspection
Dude I apoligize, i was only recalling that someone posted the code which stated you could run NM in PVC. Not that it was ok to run underground.
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed Inspection
Yes, no argument there. I hope I didn't come across that it was ok to do. It is a violation as you previously posted.
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed Inspection
We have used romex in kitchen island PVC for EVER and just started to get called on it.
I use UF now on jobs where I think I might get called. It's stupid but true. No NM in the slab. It's not too bad for the 20A circuits but when the cooktop or oven go in the island, we have to add JB's and change to thwn for the larger wire. More splices = more possible failure points.
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed Inspection
You may have failed for several reasons. One, NM cable is not listed for a damp or wet location. In this case you need to run UF cable, which is Underground Feeder. Two, it depends what kind of PVC tubing you used. Did you use electrical grade which is gray in color, or did you use plumbing grade which is white? The only other things left are conduit fill and conduit size. What size conduit did you use and did it meet the requirements on the fill? Otherwise it may just be the inspector was being strick on you. Good luck to you.
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed Inspection
Is there a limit on the number of receptacles connected to the load side of a GFCI?
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed Inspection
Not per the NEC. There might be according to the specific manufacturer, although I haven't seen such a limit for years.
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed InspectionQuote:
I've never seen NM being use underground may be for low voltage purposes application. I always use THHN or THWN when going under. Good luck |
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What's UF - underground feeder? thanks |
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed InspectionQuote:
Also, it could be true for Southwire, but what about other brands?
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed InspectionQuote:
It is advisable to stick with the receptacle manufacturers recommendations. Some equipment leaks a few mA into the ground, such as a computer through filter capacitors. If you have too many outlets downstream and you plug in enough of them, the sum of leakage can be enough to cause a nuisance trip. |
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed Inspection
If you have read my post, I stated UF is underground feeder. What I didn't post was it MAY be listed for wet/damp locations and also some are UV rated against sunlight to a certain degree such as 90 degree C or 75, depending on the outer sheathing.
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Re: I Used Romex In Pvc, Failed Inspection
You know an awful lot for being just a helper. I know "A" guys that don't know about temperature ratings or what UF stands for. You're gonna be a helluva electrician.
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