How To Know If Unknown Wire Is "neutral Or Ground"?

handyman99

thanks for the answer. I will try it first thing in the morning. I thought it would work, I just wanted to make sure.

oldfrt

BUT:
IF you do the work and something happens,they will be concerned enough to refuse to cover any losses!!!

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Celtic

Why are you attempting to do this?

Let the LL pay for a compliant installation.

Why are you willing to live in sub-standard housing?

Let the LL pay for a compliant installation.

A professional will do the work professional at a professional price.
Let the LL pay for a compliant installation.


What is the matter with you??????

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Inner10

This is a joke right?

Put your multimeter on it.

My roof has been good for 20 years your right why worry about it, they get better with age anyway right?

Instead of killing yourself and/or burning down your house and all your belongings (even if its just half a box of cheerios and a rolling machine) call a different electrician to install your plug. I work with wires everyday and have a college degree in electrical, I do all my own work on my personal property yet if I need to put in a plug or change a switch at a client's house I call my electrician, not because I don't know what I'm doing. Its a liability/insurance issue (not to mention its illegal) smarten up junior!

LEVELBEST

Dang guys......if someone would just tell him how to tell the difference.....maybe he WON'T get killed! I know the answer.......however, i don't really want to be on the hook if he does it and the place burns down.....

macmikeman

I might pitch in and answer the question, but first I have my own plumbing question he must answer for me. I opened up my wall and there were two pipes in it. One was light brownish in color, and the other was big and black. Can I drink the water that comes down big black pipe? Which one is the hot water?? Man these plumbers didn't know what they were doing....

wallmaxx

How come you haven't just connected it one way or the other - then flip on the breaker and see what happens.

Oh, and realize that I am a framer. I build the structure WAY before the electricians get in there and do their thing.

I have almost NO electrical wiring knowledge.

So, take that advice for what it is...

handyman99

I have to admit that is one thing that is stupid about this board. I ask a simple question but nobody wants to answer it. Whatever I do is at my own risk. The only reason why I ask this question to be on the safe side. However, if nobody answers the question, then I have to take the risk. I'm trying to avoid the risk by testing if this wire is neutral or ground.

If you can answer the question I would really appreciate it.

handyman99

The black pipe (if it is plastic) is either for waste water or for ventilation. The black plastic pipe vents to the roof. If the black pipe is metal, then it's a gas pipe. The brownish pipe (copper pipe) is always for clean water. However, I've seen non-complaint places that actually use copper pipe for gas. Totally illegal. The only way you can tell if it's cold water or hot water is just by feeling the pipe. Run the water for a few minutes. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask. You can even call me on my cell if you need help. Email me for my number.

Celtic

I'll answer your question when you answer mine:
Fair enough?

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macmikeman

You didn't answer me if I could drink it and you only get one shot at this...

slowforthecones

I think his username says a lot about this person asking the question.

And on contractor talk...there is a very common one 4 letter word we call these handyman. It is "HACK"

I hear there is plenty of room at the home depot parking lot for you to camp out and find new customers....

trptman

I've got black metal pipes that I just can't figure out. they look like theymight be cast iron and the toilet is hooked to it. I"ve never seen a gas powered toilet before and didn't realizie I had one in my old house. I was gonna put a T in the line to run the gas range in my kitchen , but I can't find the right fitting. can you point me in the right direction?
seriously, if the 1st electrician won't do the job keep calling others until you can get one to show up and do the job if you are that unsure of what you are doing.

bwalley

What if the black pipe is C.I.? couldn't that be a vent, soil or waste line?

Ventilation is an HVAC term, I think you meant Vent.

I think you meant non-compliant.

BTW Copper pipe is legal for gas at least it was when I took the state exam to get my plumbing contractors license.

Are you a licensed plumber or do you just include plumbing in your handyman work? no self respecting licensed contractor would call themselves a handyman.

Static Design

Match the colors...........duhh

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SelfContract

Are well having fun yet gentlement???.. This is supposed a joke thread setup (by some anonymous member) for teasing all OTHER serious members only...

Ah,... 99 bottles on da wall.. *keep counting*... .. I'm outta here...

handyman99

I talked to the owner this morning and told him that I couldn't do the job because I wasn't sure if it was neutral or ground. I explain to him that I wasted 2 hours on the internet trying to figure this out. The owner told me that he is not surprise, all electrician are either arrogant or stupid. The owner stated whenever he dealt with electrician, they give him the same attitude.

Well to make a long story short, the owner told me that he was sure it was going to work and either way he was going to pay me for the job if I did the job. Originally price I was going to charge him was 2 hours of work at $75.00 an hour. After I told him that I wasn't going to do the job, he increased the pay to 4 hours of work. (Two hours on the internet and 2 hours wiring.)

I made $300.00 cash and it only took me 45 minutes to install the socket.

I was frustrated yesterday, but the frustration paid off. For once in my life I am thankful that you guys are stupid.

SelfContract

Congrats!!.. Now, you shoudl thank all da serious members here for .. their countless hours of.. *consultation*...