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Old 11-08-2009, 08:00 PM   #21
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Wow so commercial electric is crap. So im going to bring them back. I went to a Electric supply and they are pushing " Lightolier " from Philips So im going to decide btw Halo or Lightolier.

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Old 11-08-2009, 08:22 PM   #22
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lightlier

Lightolier is the best new work and old work recessed lights out there
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:59 AM   #23
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We use Halo for new construction because they go up the fastest (the nails are nice) and commercial electric for remodel applications because they install the cleanest (large outside trim). We only use all metal airtight trims because they are the best. Also, use a 130V lamp if you go incandescent. IMO, juno is overrated and difficult to work with.
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Old 01-08-2010, 10:54 AM   #24
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Halo cans have nice U shaped plastic bushings in the J box, you make up the romex connections outside the box and simply slide them into the bushings, fold the wires inside the box and put the cover plate on. Commercial Electric cans have little tabs you pry out and then you push the romex into the box past this cheesy metal retainer... It's just not as easy as Halo. If the "Joist Bays" are narrower than norm, the support legs on Halo cans are much easier to shorten.

I always install Halo, but I finish them off with cheap $1.50 Chinese trims.
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Hey...just curious...where do you pick up the universal (ie. cheaper) trims/baffles for Halo cans?

Thanks.
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So I have been shopping around for some 6" high hats and i was already to leave with some 6" Halo housing 6pack when the Home depot electrical guy says you should buy these "commercial electric" recessed lights. "They are the same as the Halo but cheaper" So i bought them and looked online for some reviews and everything I read about them are bad. So i was wondering if anyone knows anything about "Commercial Electric" recessed lights. They are the Home Depot brand and were 34$ for 6 6" housing kits air tight insulation contact.

Should I go back with the Halo or stick with the Commercial Electric?
IMO it's very sad that you'd take the advice of a Home Depot restocking employee.
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:45 PM   #26
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Hey...just curious...where do you pick up the universal (ie. cheaper) trims/baffles for Halo cans?

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Here's one of several places I use:

http://www.affordablequalitylighting...310/index.html

You can get cheaper from RT Electric and Sunstar. Also eBay.
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IMO it's very sad that you'd take the advice of a Home Depot restocking employee.
I was in a HD once and was walking through the electrical isle when I heard this lady trying to sell 16/2 lamp cord to this guy to run underground for his pole light. That made me realize to never ask questions at HD.

I let the guy know that was the wrong wire and to only use it if he wanted to burn his house down. She (HD employee) got all defensive and said that she sells kitchen cabinets not wiring.
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I vote Halo
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I was in a HD once and was walking through the electrical isle when I heard this lady trying to sell 16/2 lamp cord to this guy to run underground for his pole light. That made me realize to never ask questions at HD.

I let the guy know that was the wrong wire and to only use it if he wanted to burn his house down. She (HD employee) got all defensive and said that she sells kitchen cabinets not wiring.

I tell people the only thing to ask a HD employee is "where's the bathroom."
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I normally try to upsell Lightolier.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:42 PM   #31
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I tell people the only thing to ask a HD employee is "where's the bathroom."
One time I was in there and a guy was looking for an offset. The HD guy was trying to tell him to take a 1/2" EMT 90* sweep and cut it in the middle of a cut, then put a coupling in and turn it to create an offset! I told the guy not to do it and showed him an offset and had a conversation with the HD guy. He claimed he had success with that method many times. BS you did. You can't fit the curved part of a 90 into a coupling you liar.
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