Ground Up or Ground Down(no it is not another debate) - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

darren · 04-05-2008, 05:16 PM

I know most of you looked at the title and went "oh great another discussion on the ground up or ground down bull".

Don't worry this is not what this is meant to be. This is the end all, a solution has been found to let everyone to be happy.

I was walking through Hope Depot today and saw a display of hideous looking recitpicals and switches and decided to stop and take a look and behold I found something called a triplex.

http://www.acenti.net/catalog/receptacles.jsp

Take a look and let me know if you would ever install these anywhere.

dSilanskas · 04-05-2008, 05:45 PM

Thats kinda cool. I still say ground down

Speedy Petey · 04-05-2008, 05:48 PM

Sorry Darren. They are old news.
Just like these: http://www.360electrical.com/

MALCO.New.York · 04-05-2008, 06:06 PM

Up. Up. Up. Up. Up. Up. Up. America has it backwards! Some brands of receptacles, I can not recall, has the brand name printed so it can be read with the ground UP!

Oh! Sorry....Was this not a debate?

Think thats a cool device??????

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

dSilanskas · 04-05-2008, 06:08 PM

HAHA its ground down! 99.9 % of the buildings you go into have it ground down. So your saying everyone is wrong haha

MALCO.New.York · 04-05-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dSilanskas

HAHA its ground down! 99.9 % of the buildings you go into have it ground down. So your saying everyone is wrong haha

Yes I am! And I do agree that 99.9% are down.

cmec · 04-05-2008, 06:45 PM

Oh no 8 colors

dSilanskas · 04-05-2008, 08:51 PM

Haha I know it is all up to the person installing them but if just about everyone does ground down perhaps you should follow suit

A W Smith · 04-05-2008, 11:01 PM

Every residential home I have seen in NJ has the ground down. But why is it almost every doctors or radiology office i see has the ground up? (yeah I been to a lotta doctors recently)

Speedy Petey · 04-06-2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by darren

I know most of you looked at the title and went "oh great another discussion on the ground up or ground down bull".

Yeah I did. And that's exactly what it is turning into!

MSSI · 04-06-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by A W Smith

But why is it almost every doctors or radiology office i see has the ground up? (yeah I been to a lotta doctors recently)

Because some RETARD installed them

MALCO.New.York · 04-06-2008, 06:10 PM

http://www.mikeholt.com/technical.ph...wn?%20(9-23-99)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...lt&btnG=Search

neolitic · 04-06-2008, 06:19 PM

As long as they make 90º cord ends
with the ground pin closest to the cord
(or until cords hang up)
seems ground down is a good idea.

Guess the device in the OP is for
the "terminally" indecisive person.

TNRocks · 04-06-2008, 07:32 PM

I was at my daughters house in Summerville, SC and noticed that the ground was up. I ask my son in law and he says he noticed it also and ask the electrician and he stated that it was code. On another note. how about side ways. I have noticed a few houses and businesses with the plugs sideways and upon looking at the devices we plug into them it seems praticial.

Speedy Petey · 04-06-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TNRocks

I ask my son in law and he says he noticed it also and ask the electrician and he stated that it was code.

A lot of guys use that as an excuse to not have to explain things to the customer.

fridaymean · 04-08-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TNRocks

I was at my daughters house in Summerville, SC and noticed that the ground was up. I ask my son in law and he says he noticed it also and ask the electrician and he stated that it was code. On another note. how about side ways. I have noticed a few houses and businesses with the plugs sideways and upon looking at the devices we plug into them it seems praticial.

'Round here commercial work receps are horizontal. Comm. plates are vertical. New resi is usually the same way. Most older homes (pre 1960ish)have receps that are vertical. No rhyme or reason for any of it. We are all right, we are all wrong.

skidmeister · 04-12-2008, 06:02 PM

The new Pennsylvania building code and it's local inspectors require that all receptacles are installed ground "UP". Reasoning for this was with the ground at the bottom the HO could have something plugged into the recep but the plug wasn't pushed in the whole way, and a child could drop or lay something across the hot and neutral thus shocking them and possibly causing a fire.

cmec · 04-12-2008, 06:11 PM

Ask the inspector to show you an ammendment or point his finger to the code article , sounds like somones personal opinion!

dSilanskas · 04-12-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skidmeister

The new Pennsylvania building code and it's local inspectors require that all receptacles are installed ground "UP". Reasoning for this was with the ground at the bottom the HO could have something plugged into the recep but the plug wasn't pushed in the whole way, and a child could drop or lay something across the hot and neutral thus shocking them and possibly causing a fire.

I really think you are mistaken about that one. I highly doubt that an inspector would fail a job because the receptical is ground down haha. I like putting ground down but its up the the installer. No such thing as a wrong way