Ground Fault On A Delta

 
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:20 PM   #41
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[quote=Eddy Current;566328]Glad to see you have a good sense of humor



No, the neutral is bonded to the tranny case and that's as far as it goes. The tranny is fed using a metal conduit which is bonded back in the electrical room.



Yes, all unenergized metal is bonded to an EGC. The electrical room is small but has two seperate feeds from the vault. One 600v delta and one 120/208 wye. Both of these systems look like they are bonded to the same EGC.
I will be back there next week to intall the GF lights so I will bring my camera, give you a better picture of what I'm dealing with.


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So if I read this correctly, Your 600 volt system HAS the XO on the output connected to an earth ground and the transformer case and all metal piping is grounded to that? Is this the way it is wired ?

Because if it is you don't have a floating delta. You just have a straight delta that isn't using the neutral for utilization equipment.
Is the XO on the 600 volt connected to anything ?

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Old 01-01-2009, 08:25 PM   #42
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So if I read this correctly, Your 600 volt system HAS the XO on the output connected to an earth ground and the transformer case and all metal piping is grounded to that?
No, the 600v system comes from the vault which only Hydro can access. I got three wires in a metal pipe, 600v Delta


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Both of these systems look like they are bonded to the same EGC.
Sorry, let me re-phrase. Both systems have all their unenergized metal bonded to the same EGC.
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Here is another link , it is not exactly about the issue you have but it really has some good diagrams to help visualize the fault path on an ungrounded system.
http://www.cooperbussmann.com/pdf/b9...b2b664f5ca.pdf
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Intermittent ground fault

Just a hunch but I would look at 600 volt lighting.
Is the building or parking lights on a photo cell or timer?
If the ballast in the lights is shorted to ground you wont see it if the lighting contactor is not energized
And it is a code requirement to have ground fault indication on a delta system.
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Three days in a row I've got a late night service call for a retirement high rise. They have a small emergency panel that's loosing a phase. When I get there I find a blown 15amp-600volt fuse on the "A" phase. Put in a new fuse and all is good. Next day, same call, same problem.

I went back during the day and tested the circuit with a megger. Everything Megs clear?

Got the call again Friday morning, threw in a fuse but it blows right away. Take some readings on the main 3phase 600v and this is what I find.

Any phase to any other phase----600volts
phase "A" to ground ----600volts
phase "B" to ground ----600volts
phase "C" to ground ---- 0volts

Also, there are no ground fault indicating lights on this service.
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Intermittent ground fault

Just a hunch but I would look at 600 volt lighting.
Is the building or parking lights on a photo cell or timer?
If the ballast in the lights is shorted to ground you wont see it if the lighting contactor is not energized
And it is a code requirement to have ground fault indication on a delta system.
good luck.

Being that this happened in January,it would be a safe bet that he has figured it out..
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Hey. Don't leave us hanging like this. What happened? I have blueballs now.
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