Garage Receptacle

ChuckEA

I have a customer that wants to add a receptacle in their attached garage. There is currently one recepatcle in the garage, and my preference would be to extend off this circuit; however that would require extensive work to fish the new wire through the framing. Another option I would like to consider is to tap into the circuit that supplies the dining room because it is adjacent to the garage wall. Since the dining room circuit is not protected with GFCI I was planning to use a GFCI receptacle in the new garage outlet. Would this meet code? Or must all the garage receptacles be on separate circuits from the inside wiring? Thanks in advance for any assistance.

jbfan

You can not tap into the dining room circuit. If you have another room you can tap into, then you would be fine. You just can't use dining room, kitchen or bathroom circuits. If you can find the other room to us, then just a gfci recpt. is all that is needed.

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ChuckEA

Thanks jbfan. Just curious why the dining room would be an issue. I understand the kitchen and bath because of proxmity to water and use of small appliances, etc. Does the Code offer any explanation why a dining room would be restricted?

Speedy Petey

Because the DR is included in the small appliance branch circuits, and the code is very explicit with regard to NOT sharing these circuits with any other areas.

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toastermaker

Would someone who knows thier stuff please comfirm or deny this possible, but unlikley exception:
If there happens to be a Switched Receptacle on the dinning room wall in question, code would have allowed it to be on a General Purpose branch circuit.
If such a switched receptacle exists and all other code was met, you could tie onto that circuit.

Thanks for any replies,

jbfan

If it exsisited as you stated, then it would be premissable to tie into that circuit and power the garage. But as you stated, that would be unusual.

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toastermaker

Thank you very much jbfan.

ChuckEA,
I would never hijack your thread soley for my own edification. I only posted because this applied to your situation as well as my own learning experiance.
Good luck to you I hope all goes well.

mdshunk

A switched receptacle is for lighting. Lighting is not permitted to be on the small appliance circuit, and dining room receptacles are small appliance circuits. If a switched receptacle exists in a dining room, it is a violation in and of itself. There's a 20 page manifesto on another site that I can hunt the link to if you're interested in reading about this in painful detail.

ChuckEA

thanks guys for clarifying this for me. I've been putting off buying a code book because of cost but I guess i'll have to bite the bullet (sure hope it's grounded properly, ) so i can answer these simple questions for myself. Toaster- no problem, i learned another new thing

Rich Turley

What about tying into the recepticle and use the gray plastic conduit to run the wires? I would think that would fly in a garage.


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toastermaker

Thanks mdshunk and ChuckEA,

Mdshunk, yes a link would be great for me if you could. The "painful detail" is obviously what I need. So far, every time I think I have finally figured something out by reading the code I turn out to be wrong. Wow, interpreting the code is difficult.

I know I'm not the sharpest stick in the bunch, but I hope to be one of the sturdiest. I will not give up.

Thanks again,

ChuckEA

I suggested that to the HO but she said it would look too ugly. I guess it would clash with the green garbage can and the black oil stains on the floor

Romex-Racer

It's permitted as long as it's not on the SA circuit. There's even an illustration of this in the 2005 NEC Handbook.

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onowino

"If a switched receptacle exists in a dining room, it is a violation in and of itself."



That is not true. At least on receptacle in a dining area must be on its own circuit. Others, in the same area, can be attached to common lighting or power circuits.

avguy

She can paint the PVC whatever color she pleases.

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Hmrepairs

Is there an attic above this garage? Tie off existing, up, over, down. No finish work. Cut in box and your done.

aptpupil

5+ year old thread guys.

Rob PA

DOH damn old thread gets me again

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A.T.C.

Newbie strikes again. That's four and counting just that i've seen in one week!! WTF!!

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It sure makes me glad that I'm not the only one!