Cost To New Code Changes

sniperelectech

As of June we have adapted having tamper proof receptacles and AFCI breakers. Has anyone figured the cost increase per square Ft that will be?? I know I'm being lazy..lol.. but just looking for quick answer. Oh and Thank God NC isn't going to enforce having to run cables under house through bar joist.

mdshunk

If you believe the builder's association for the State of Ohio, it's 3 grand a home. They actually got the 2008 NEC repealed for now in their state. I don't work on square foot pricing, so I plainly don't know.

Speedy Petey

Ditto.
Per device pricing here, so figuring T-P receptacles will be no problem if they ever find their way to NY.

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knothole

I'm not sure about the AFCI breaker, but the TR plugs will cost me twice as much as a regular plug...

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mdshunk

No, they'll cost your customer twice as much. You don't really care (or rather, should't care) what they cost. If everyone's in the same boat, you're on a level playing field. Every year you live, you'll look back and remember that stuff was cheaper in the past. Stuff will be more expensive in the future, and the codes will continue to mandate better and better products. Just deal....

woodchuck2

X2, you should be making money regardless of what the item is or what code states you must use. I charge by the box when doing new construction, anything out of the norm is an extra and will be charged as so to cover the extra cost. To me an AFCI would be an extra and when compared to a regular breaker i charge the customer for it. Same goes for GFCI's, TP's, recessed cans, track lights, under cabinet lights, etc. My price per box gets the customer a circuit from the panel to the box with a pigtail and thats it. The mounting of normal fixtures is included unless its a big or complicated peice and then it is extra. Thats how i do things but everyone is different.

Magnettica

Thank God New Jersey has nothing to do with AFCI's.

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Bubbles

Not sure who paid who off in ohio but I'm breathing easier now

thom

Well we got the new NEC here in NM. Then, Albuquerque passed an additional "Green" code. Both went into effect July 1. 80% of our fixtures must be energy efficient (fluorescent or led), we must run a 1-1/2" conduit from the roof to adjacent to the panel for future solar photovoltaics, all exterior lights on timers or photo cells, and on and on.

brian11973

If you what something to pi$$ off the Pope, do what I just did. I just finished the second basement for the same client, here in Ohio. The ENTIRE basement, as the GC. The first basement, I APPLIED for the permit 3 bleeping days before Ohio went back to the 2005 edition. ( I finished the base before they moved in, for the dust, I was in a bit of a hurry). I did not know that Ohio was even enforcing 2008 yet. I went back to the HO with a change work order for the TR receptacles & AFCI's. Which the Inspector LOOKED for, even though he already knew about the change to back 2005.!!!!!!

If you can not "eat" the cost of the TR's, you are not charging enough!
My cost on a regular outlet .$62
My cost on the TR's $1.22

Yeah, it's double the cost, but it's not much of a cost.
If this breaks the bank, well,,,,,,,,,,,

I DO NOT charge by the foot, I think it is a great way to get screwed! You pay by the "opening", AFCI's are counted as a seperate item or "opening". I only charge for the AFCI plus a small fee, I really don't care how many go in. I'm making the $$ on the opening already.

As the GC, my proposal stated "per Code". My electrical estimates say "per opening".

Lesson learned, " Be sure of any Codes, before giving the bid".

If you think SQ FT pricing is the way to go, Please tell me HOW? When the print shows switched plugs & the HO wants cans, fans & 8 foot chandeliers that show up in 2 foot boxes?????

The only other way would be Labor (bid) PLUS Material Cost (actual cost). The last house I wired ( which was for a friend of the family), was Labor Only(bid). It became Labor plus Material ( they supplied the wire, they asked about wire pricing, I did not know about a sudden drop in prices, at the time). I charged Labor (bid) plus Material & pick up fee. My bid was $300 cheaper than 3 guys that were going to do it as a side job (The job was a no permit job). THEN, they wanted another GRAND when they found out the number of cans to go in. I still made $55 / hour.

brian11973

Oh, I forgot. In my last electrical class here in Ohio, the instructor very throughly when though the costs. About $900 for a 2400 square foot house.

Travis M.

Hey Brian,

I have been charging by the sq. ft. but am interested in talking to you about charging per opening. Please e-mail me at travis@olinelectric.com with more information about this or let me know how I can contact you .

Thanks

Travis