Connections To The Back Of A Switch

cmwacasey

PLAN 9,I am calling you out.where did you go.Do you think EVERYONE is stupid.

cmwacasey

He is gone. Just another arrogent big mouth.

OsNap

Wait, I am not a electrican but isnt it code to pigtail? And how is sidewiring unprofessional? And you sound like you are in it only for the money, and you dont take pride in your work, what if the the wire come out of the stab and set someones house on fire?

Plan 9

You dolts crack me up. You're not even electricians but that doesn't prevent you from making (incorrect) statements about the code and wiring practices.

OsNap, did your parents have any children that lived?

cmwacasey, I don't think EVERYONE is stupid, just you.

You two imbeciles would never make it in Electrical, why don't you two run along, the men are talking....

ASK_EDDIE

i dont find any wacasey as a master electrician or as a state contractor in the state of texas

macmikeman

rabbitgun

Keep in mind that most residential electrical contractors are bottom feeders in the electrical contractors pond. They must use every available means to try and make a buck including using GFI's made in the fine country of the peoples republic of china. It is very simple to copy a UL sticker and run off avery sheets of stickers to slap on these GFI's if need be.

Even though quality electrical contractors would never consider backstabbing it's a matter of economics for the bottom feeders.

At least this is what I have been told from my friend RR on another site.

jbfan

Welcome rabbitgun. I think your friend RR knows what he is talking about. Maybe he knows the plan 9 guy too

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mahlere

Plan 9 is a hack. Probably will hire anyone willing to get into his truck that day.

Everyone knows that just because backstabbing is legal, it doesn't make it right.

However, as a service electrician, got bless backstabbers. they make me money.

rabbitgun

Well, this Plan9 fellow clearly has his own ideas. He is more than likely a competitor of RR's since I notice they both are in the City of Lost Angels. I will be sure to let RR know that his compitition is going the backstab route. I'm sure he will want a leg up on that as well as the use of illegal immigrants in wiring of houses.

OsNap

Ok 9, first thing, when I made the commet about the code question I put a question mark at the end of it, stateing that I did not know if it was code or not. So now I know that it is not code.

Next is why are you asking if you partents had any children that lived? Are you refering that you are going to kill me?

And if I am such a imbecile and could NEVER make it in electrical then why did I just rewire 3 circits in a house and have it PASS inspection?

And the reason I said thoses things is it sounds like to me that you dont ake pride in your work and you are just in it for the money, tho I mabey be wrong.

mahlere

Snap,

I gotta agree with you. I mean rewiring 3 circuits and passing inspection, good job. If you didn't do them right, the inspector would have definately knocked it down.

Plan 9 is a hack who doesn't care about his work. He's probably just concerned with staying rich. I mean, he probably doesn't pay his help much and doesn't care what kind of work they do, so long as it passes inspection.

He'd probably try any gimmick out there to save a few pennies and get even richer. How's that working out for you Plan 9?

Nah, don't worry snap, you just take pride in what you do and keep on trucking.

OsNap

It was at my friends house, and he knows the electrican and he had me and my friend do it, there was a problem but he didnt tell me what it was and I had to trouble shoot it and find, yea it took me longer then a pro but it got done.

mahlere

sweet

macmikeman

Snap, you sound like you know exactly what you are doing to me. That plan 9 guy sounds like some sort of idiot. Keep up the good work old buddy. 3 circuits huh? Not too shabby. Los Angleles should just send all them crazy backstabbers back to where they came from. I would watch my back if I was you, just in case he is going to come and (bleep) you.

cmwacasey

thanks guys, i felt as though i crossed the line with my post as i have done before.i do not feel quite so bad now.sometimes contractors irritate me.Please forgive me when I get stupid.

macmikeman

Ahh, think nothing of it. Guy's like Plan 9 have absolutly no sense of humor whatsoever. He defends his backstabbing ways! How could he foist such a thing on a defenseless homeowner or a defenseless general contractor? It is like a crime to me, so don't worry about crossing any lines at all. You ought to give it to him some more. He deserves it. Who does this guy think he is anyway?

DaveTap

Of course plan9 doesn't have a problem with backstabbing. I'm guessing he wires a house and gets paid for it so he's happy. A couple years later another electrician (like me) gets paid to fix it. My specialty is solving difficult intermittent problems in older homes and I make a lot of money fixing backstabs. I've only been an electrician 22 years and I don't advertise so all my business is repeat or referral.

JamesNLA

Well to say that he can't find any good guys to do good work in ALL of Los Angeles is just lame. And the part about them not speaking english....I can think of at least 10 places he can go and get some LABORS (not electricians) pay them 10 bucks an hour and drop them off after the day is done. ANd yes, most of them don't speak a lick of english. They expect to dig trenches, clean up, move heavy things, not (re)wire houses.

Someone else mentioned this also, as far as I know, it's very hard (if at all) to find recepts or SW's to accept anything larger than 14 gauge. So if he is still backstabbing, he wires everything with 14 gauge. I wonder how many plan changes he makes to get that to fly. AND if he is hiring illeagle's he is the total and complete scum ing bag of the earth. What a way to piss on people that earn an honest days work. Karma is a bitch...I'm thinking his back goes out and all his tools are stolen. That happens all to often round here.

Los Angeles is a HUGE city, and there are tons of EC's....and guess what, there is plenty of work for all of them. What an a$$ wipe

mahlere

James,

I believe that you are correct. I mean how could someone even think of doing something shady like that? I know that as an electrical contractor in NJ, we pay some of the highest labor rates in the country. I can't compete with the guys who use slave labor. It's a good thing that Plan 9 guy only does electrical, if he was to branch out into plumbing, or hvac, he would ruin those those trades too.

but, you know, if he can sleep at night knowing that he is part of the problems with this industry, and not part of the solution, then I agree with you, karma.

You hear that Plan 9, karma will get you. I hope you enjoy your mansion and your yacht. I hope you feel good making money off the sweat of untrained laborers.

I know this post only sounds half serious, but I'm trying to stay within the posting rules of this site, so I can't say what I really want to say.

I'll just leave it at this. Plan 9 you are a backstabbing fool.

BTW- Thank you to all the backstabbing electricians out there, you make me money. Don't stop doing what you are doing. If nobody backstabbed I would lose 25% of my service calls. That's a lot of money every year. So, while I think you are the scum of the earth, please do not change. Let me secretly thank you, as I publically chastise you.