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Changing Dryer Cord
Bought a new dryer and of course it has a 4 wire pigtail. Is it necessary to change the old 3 wire rec in my house, or can I just change the 4 wire oigtail to a 3 wire off the old dryer. Now if this was the opposite situation, I would have no problem. Bend the ground strap back, neutrtal to the middle, ground to the cab , good to go. Where I am a little bumfuzzled is do I put the green ground on with the white neutral at the power block?
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
IMO the receptacle needs to be 4-conductor AND the circuit wiring needs to be 4-conductor.
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
Do you have a wiring system that will support the 4 wire receptacle?
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Re: Changing Dryer CordQuote:
So basically it is a new dryer on existing 3 wire conductor. When I bought it, I thought I would have to run a 4 wire but was told I could just swap pigtails. When I vcame to the grounding, I had to stop and think. Thought maybe someone on here could rest my mind a little. |
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Re: Changing Dryer CordQuote:
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The short version: If the existing is a 3-wire ~ use a 3 wire. All else must be a 4-wire. The OP has an existing 3-wire circuit.
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Re: Changing Dryer CordQuote:
If you were installing a new circuit, code would require you to go to a 4 wire receptacle. |
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
What really needs to be determined is:
Is the existing REALLY a 3-wire circuit or not? Many times, the AC jacket is over looked as the EGC here.
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Re: Changing Dryer CordQuote:
I called myself checking to see if the green ground wire/case ground was connected to the frame somewhere as I could not see where it was connected. I did not get a beep or a reading. That made me scratch my head a little. Seemes to me it should have given a signal or shown som ekinf of continuity between the ground and the caseing. The old one showed a connection between the ground starp and the casing, bulkhead, etc., but the strap was fastened to the powerblock on the back and it was a metal bracket going around the powerblock and attached to the case so it made sense. Anyway, problem solved... I hope. Hey it works! Just hope if it ever has a short, it does hurt hurt! All jokes aside, I did not trust my knowledge enough on this matter to be completely sure of it being safely grounded. Thanks for the responses. |
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
boman...if you get a chance and the motivation....make it a 4-wire.....technically, the 3-wire went out in like 1996 - but the NEC realizes many homes were built prior to that date.
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Re: Changing Dryer CordQuote:
Motivation is what I need to go ahead and change this thing out and get the grouind sperated from the nuetral. Having said that, how did we get by for so manyu years with the old way? Actually, I guess there some that didn't. I still have some 4 wire rec's in my shop. In fact, I took a strain relief off one to put on this dryer cord. So, I have the rec's and cords. I may change them out...in the near future. |
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Re: Changing Dryer Cordya know, up until last week, the world was flat and there were 9 planets ![]() Things change. What was once held as true is challenged. To be even more eloquent, shat happens
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
In the Chicago suburbs where everything must be run in emt, I sometimes wonder myself if the metal emt is a substantial ECG. We have to make our own 4th wire to the Eg via a green screw.
It's all so confusing, I just want to be a fireman or superhero when I grow up! |
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Re: Changing Dryer CordQuote:
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Re: Changing Dryer CordQuote:
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
Is it is a newer/nicer dryer? Older dryers have 240v motors and elements. Newer dryers have 120V components on them?
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
IF YOU ARE ... A plumber, electrician, remodeler, handyman or what ever.
Never - Never - Never ... Reach down behind a dryer and pull the plug to disconect it. Always turn the breaker off 1st! See the proof -- but I did not get a shock. Still don't know why? |
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
Why what? Why you got a shock? Thats easy enough to see with the condition of the cord. I can guess why the lead ins are the way they are, but what happened to the plug end?
Heheh, I guess you mean why a 4 cord should be used. I do know the purpose of the 4th wire. You are right, that kind of brings it into better focus. |
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Re: Changing Dryer Cord
Because it plugged in with the cord up, and it was bent back over just before the dryer was slammed up against it, literally folding it. You can still see the curvature of the cord caused by the torture inflicted on it.
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