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Aluminum Gague
When we stripped out the drywall
in a bathroom all of the wire we see is #12. The bedroom boxes on the other side of the wall are #12 as well. It's all aluminum. Went to shut off the circuits we are working around, the panel is piggy-back hell, and all of the bedroom and bathroom breakers are 20 amp. Were the original breakers supposed to be 15's? Or are the 20's alright? It's been a long time, but I thought aluminum was #12 for 15amp, and I don't remember 20 amp circuits for bedrooms or bathrooms back then.(1969) Forgot: House was built in 1969, I just want to know if they have a problem there or if I just have a bad memory for how this stuff went 40 years ago.
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Re: Aluminum Gague
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Re: Aluminum Gague
I do believe that a 15 amp circuit requires a 12 gauge aluminum wire as apposed to a 14gauge copper. I can remember reading in the nec book that all 14 gauge aluminum wire must be replaced, I could be wrong though. The real electritians should be around shortly to confirm or deny that
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Re: Aluminum Gague
#12 Aluminum is rated for 20 amps. But it must be protected by no larger than a 15 amp breaker or fuse. So your memory is fine.
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a sparky tonite. I think half the breakers they have will be over loaded when he switches them back to 15's. This is gonna get real interesting.
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Re: Aluminum Gague
NEC Article 240.4 (D)
(D) Small Conductors. Unless specifically permitted in 240.4(E) or 240.4(G), the overcurrent protection shall not exceed 15 amperes for 14 AWG, 20 amperes for 12 AWG, and 30 amperes for 10 AWG copper; or 15 amperes for 12 AWG and 25 amperes for 10 AWG aluminum and copper-clad aluminum after any correction factors for ambient temperature and number of conductors have been applied. |
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