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Trade: Electrical
Join Date: Mar 2006
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480 Volt Lighting
21 lights, 480 volt controlled through a lighting contactor a 120 volt coil. The contactor and coil were working correctly sending 480 volts to lighting. Checked all neutral connections and all power connections. No problems were found. But the lights will still not come on. Ballast and bulbs are fine. What could be the problem?
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Electrical Contractor
Trade: Electrical
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NY State
Posts: 2,179
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Re: 480 Volt Lighting
Wow. Are you sure there is 480 to the load side terminations of the contactor? Maybe the contactor is not pulling in all the way? Maybe something is stuck inside or the coil is weak and not pulling it in all the way.
What neutral are you checking? To the coil? The lights should not have a neutral at 480v. Are you reading 480v right at the fixtures themselves?
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Member
Trade: master electrician USA / France verison
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 70
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Re: 480 Volt Lighting
i have to ask this question here is the system is true 480 volts ??
you have to mesure from line to line to verify it other wise if line to netrual it will read 277 volts. one warning here be extra carefull with 480 volts you don't get much leeway with this system at all. if this is on HID [ high instendy discharge] lamps did you check the ballast sometime some of them have capaitor in series with bulb circuit if go bad either will be dim or refused to light up [ i will explain more in seprate details later] i know some contractors can get "hung up" so kill the power to the contractor and recheck the concat button to make sure it is not pitted or hevey burn mark on them. is the contractor to handle all this lighting load or have few circuits along the way ?? let us know Merci , Marc |
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Professional Remodeler
Trade: Remodeling Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southeast Michigan
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Re: 480 Volt Lighting
You said you checked all the "neutrals"... That would lead me to believe that the lights are 277 volt. Have you actually checked for voltage up at the light, right where it connects to the ballast? Is it a multi-tap ballast? If so, is it set to the right voltage? Did you check contact continuity at the contactor (with the power off) to make sure tha contacts are actually closing?
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Philadelphia electrician
Trade: Electrical contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: King of Prussia, PA [Philadelphia]
Posts: 346
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Re: 480 Volt Lighting
It doesn't matter what voltage the lights are
As long as you have the PROPER voltage, it doesn't matter whether the lights are 480 volt or 48 volt. You are sounding panicky, so I guess you don't do a lot of 480 work... You will have the same problems you have at 120 volts wrong voltage tap selected open circuit bad contactor all the same old gremlins I take it none of the lights have lit since the job was installed ... Make SURE what voltage you are getting at the lights Make SURE they are tapped at the right voltage Check all components for proper installation [if one got done wrong, they are probably all wrong the same way ...] keep at it you'll find it good luck |
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Philadelphia electrician
Trade: Electrical contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: King of Prussia, PA [Philadelphia]
Posts: 346
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Re: 480 Volt Lighting
forgot to ask...
do the ballasts and lamp type match? HPS and MH don't play well with others |
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listen twice talk once!
Trade: electrician
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orange county California
Posts: 668
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Re: 480 Volt Lighting
My luck it would be a loose wirenut. ABC apprentices. Enough said.........go wings!
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New Guy
Trade: general contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 15
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Re: 480 Volt Lighting
hey dude, your question is a good one but it is after 1am and i need to get up at 630am. if i get a chance tomorrow, i will reply with a couple of ideas and tips. remember though - troubleshooting is a process of elimination, working from the most obvious to the least obvious. good luck and i'll try to respond tomorrow. ak
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