Working Myself To Death...need Advice Please

remodeljunkie

Not only am I running a fledgling remodel company (2 Employees) but Im going at it with limited experience in the drywall area. My experience in painting and trim carpentry have duped me into believing I was ready to tackle anything, unfortunately my first three jobs have included bringing old walls back to near perfect condition because of particular paint schemes (satin,eggshells,and a first for me-Brilliant Metals<--a semi-gloss based nightmare, anyway my question is ...am I killing myself by perscribing complete wall skimming for wallpaper damaged walls? What are the alternatives if any and how can I ensure that my pricing is consistent with the man hours this requires. My labor cost for painting is set to include minor patching but this process sometimes requires 2 to 3 trips through a room to get the results were looking for...please tell me theres a better way besides replacing all the sheetrock.

Crock

Knockdown

wizendwizard

Roll skim... but then again, the only way to do it easy is to do it properly.

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remodeljunkie

Damn that is right Ive completely overlooked that ...I feel like an idiot, that's common knowledge. Hey I'm sorry to waste your time like I said I'm new to this. I appreciate you taking the time to set me straight on this, my ignorance was killing my business and one word may have just saved it .Thanks bro. Another lesson learned the hard way.

davy crockett

As long as you become a participating member you aren'twasting anybody's time,we are a community. Some on here just know alot like GeneCarp and Ron the Plumber but you do know in order to get some results(like smooth walls) somebody's got to smooth em, and that is 2-3 trips through the room. Sell that..............people who bought into those texture fads are gonna one day hate em and it's gonna cost somebody ( either them or the poor sap who bids it like a high build primer will hide it. Sell the service and you will soon get faster and better at skimming and hopefully you will get a decent wage in the process.

Capt-Sheetrock

on really badly gouged walls, I will roll it on and pull it down with a squeege, pole sanding breifly between coats, can be done quickly and will save you some serious time. a cpl of passes and your on your way

Crock

Glad to help.

bh54

i make my living by making tertured walls and ceilings smooth again have done hundreds of them I have a very good system for doing this however it does take time can explain it here I mix concrete fill and drywall mud togeither 30% con fill 70% mud trowel over the area with this mix first coat just to level the area when it has set up but not hard yet i trowel it again to smooth all riges out then try to fill over it the same day with mud no sanding at this piont next day i apply another coat of straight mud one more coat over with thin mud the following day you can sand at this piont if you need to I dont as i spend a little more time making it smooth it should come out as smooth as glass however if you are going over wall paper I would paint the paper with two coats of oil priemer frist to seal it

375RGR

Hey bh54 can you elaborate a little more on your method. What kind or brand of concrete fill? Are you talking about quick set concrete? Have you had any problems with it peeling or flaking off when painting or wallpapering on top of?

Thanks

Capt-Sheetrock

huh???????

Sir Mixalot

Durabond.

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Crock

You some kind of mad scientist brah?

375RGR

I have never heard of Durabond being called Concrete fill. Is that a regional thing?

DavidNTX

How much crap do you think you can pile onto the top of wallpaper before it releases. I know it is done and many times successful, at least for awhile. Some of those "soak in water wallpapers" have a very thin adhesive that is designed to hold the wallpaper and not much more and some are even made to release easily for an easier replacement..

That old paper needs to come off and the walls brought back smooth and the best way to do that is using Crock's advice.

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http://public.graco.be/0/?d=590

around $5500.00 new, find one used for less. Sprays a Level 5 finish. Invest in this puppy and you will be GOLDEN I got to play around with one. Went to the drywall and messed it up with a 5in1 and then sprayed this over the damage and it covered like the damage was never there!

Frankawitz

Who mixes concrete with drywall mud why would you do this? what are you working to make stucco, that's sand, portland cement and lime I have never heard of this kinda of mix. so what type of drywall mud do you use for this skim coat?


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bh54

ok first of all concrete fill is not concrete or any thing like concrete it is a drywall product made by synkoliod you should be able to buy it at most drywall supply companies it was first made to go over concrete cinder block walls it can be sanded however I do not sand it I will try to explain later as to why not con fill sets up fast just like fast set maybe not quit as quick i mix it with drywall mud because it does not set up as fast that way and it also trowels much better it will self level on a wall or ceiling it you have good control with your trowel not only to i use it over cement but i also make texured ceiling smooth with this product as for over wall paper if you prime it with 2 coats of oil sealer the wall paper will not peal or very very little peaping will happen and no I AM NOT A MAD SCIENTIST I AM AN OLD FUUUUCK maYBE THE LAST MASTER DRYWALL FINISHERS AROUND NOT HAPPY TO SAY THAT BUT ITS TRUE try working with this product and you will be amazed and what it can do

Darwin

It'nit fun? Learnin' new ish every day. Thats why i love my job

Crock

Dave,

I operated on your beliefs for years, but nobody could afford me to remove it and I would just lose out on the job entirely. So I sell knockdown over paper with no warranty now. If there is no sizing underneath. Peeps don't care anymore and the national average for folks staying in their home is around 5 years anyway.

FYI...I textured every square inch of my home four years ago over paper. No prob what so ever yet. Living room has seen three paint jobs over that period.

Tim0282

All I can find is an interior and exterior spackling paste. That's not it, is it?