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Old 03-08-2012, 04:55 AM   #61
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I usually start with knives and finish with a trowel.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:47 AM   #62
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Canadians=Trowels Americans=Knives

Seem right?


I actually just discovered the trowell recently as I smoothed a ceilling out, and skimcoated-and so went and bought a 14'' trowell.

Before that It was all knives, however I think I might give the trowell a try, change it up a bit...
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Canadians=Trowels Americans=Knives

Seem right?
No, a knife is like the small knives you use to apply your tape only much wider. A trowel is like what a concrete guy would use to finish concrete.

Completely different forces being applied to your wrist for each one. No way would I mud a whole place with a knife. My wrist would be finished.
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Yeah I like the painters whites for mudding and painting..they are cheaper too
Yep. That's all I wear while at work too.
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I use both: knives and a trowel. I usually start with the knives small to large, and if I'm having a hard time achieving the finish I want, I'll move up to the trowel. I just feel it allows me to feather the compound out better.

For scimming, as the initial taping was completed and I'm just trying to produce a smoother finish, I start with the trowel.

Like others have said, if the wall texture was unusually rough, I'd probably roll it on and knife or trowel it off (probably trowel it off though to be honest.)

If you've never used a trowel, try it. Go slow and try to get the feel for the process.

I also carry a spray bottle of water and mist the wall before I start and also mist the compound as I go. If I need it a little thinner here or there I just squirt some water as needed. I do thin the mix, but not to much other wise it's difficult to work with: wont stay on tools.

Spray bottle works great! I skim with a twelve inch knife and pan using plus 3 blue lid
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new drywall in bathrooms i like to spray mud and wipe with my 15'' er
two coats makes the painters happy.
over think texture I spray mud and do a knock down than two more coats if needed, wipe tight
bad walls I spray mud in 40'' from bottom to top lay fibafuse on wall and skim. spray 2nd coat bal bal bal
bad lids...never repair I put up new drywall and box away
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I don't do it like any of you guys.

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I don't do it like any of you guys.

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When I skim coat (not Level 5) but a skim coat to level out old texture. I don't thin my compound at all I feel it makes it shrink to much. We do this with two people with one person it just takes too much time.

First I start off with a premixed 4.5 bucket of Lafarge Rapid Coat Rapid Drying It's the light green top.

You take a stiff 6" knife Spin it in a circle with one edge on th outside of the bucket. This one move does a few things for you.
1. it compresses the mud driving out the air bubbles.
2. it makes a nice roll of mud on your knife
3. it scrapes the side of the bucket clean. This prevents chunks on the inside of the bucket drying out and getting transferred into your finish. Also making cleaning out a bucket take about 20 seconds with a scotchbrite pad.

Now you have a nice compressed roll of mud on your 6" knife. Next grab you 12" knife and work the mud one time. To make sure there are no air bubbles left. Take your mud on the 6" and roll it across your 12" making a nice line of mud evenly across the 12" knife now you are ready to apply to the wall.

Spread out on the wall coating the whole surface doesn't have to be perfectly smooth. There can be small knife marks and such the important thing is to get it coat fairly even.

This is where the second guy comes in. After the first guy gets the wall coated the second guy is fallowing behind him with a 16" or 20" what ever is more comfortable. He is taking that big knife and is smoothing everything out. No knife marks, bubbles or ridges. The mud is starting to dry out while he is working it smooth. You can damn near polish the surface smooth.

If done right it's just a very light sand and your done if there is texture I usually don't even sand.

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SW has a tool called a magic trowel it's almost like a 12" squeegee (i know it's spelled wrong) it has a rubber blade. when u use the roller method then take it off with this trowel it works pretty good. I was taught with a pan and knives so thats what i'm comfortable with, but a couple years ago i bought a hawk and trowel never got it to feel right so it has laid in the bottom of tool box every since. But from what i read here, my mistake was it is a curved trowel and i should have got a straight one. Guess i'll get one and try again.
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Thin mud. Hawk and a 14" trowel. Give 'er!!!
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When I skim coat (not Level 5) but a skim coat to level out old texture. I don't thin my compound at all I feel it makes it shrink to much. We do this with two people with one person it just takes too much time.

First I start off with a premixed 4.5 bucket of Lafarge Rapid Coat Rapid Drying It's the light green top.

You take a stiff 6" knife Spin it in a circle with one edge on th outside of the bucket. This one move does a few things for you.
1. it compresses the mud driving out the air bubbles.
2. it makes a nice roll of mud on your knife
3. it scrapes the side of the bucket clean. This prevents chunks on the inside of the bucket drying out and getting transferred into your finish. Also making cleaning out a bucket take about 20 seconds with a scotchbrite pad.

Now you have a nice compressed roll of mud on your 6" knife. Next grab you 12" knife and work the mud one time. To make sure there are no air bubbles left. Take your mud on the 6" and roll it across your 12" making a nice line of mud evenly across the 12" knife now you are ready to apply to the wall.

Spread out on the wall coating the whole surface doesn't have to be perfectly smooth. There can be small knife marks and such the important thing is to get it coat fairly even.

This is where the second guy comes in. After the first guy gets the wall coated the second guy is fallowing behind him with a 16" or 20" what ever is more comfortable. He is taking that big knife and is smoothing everything out. No knife marks, bubbles or ridges. The mud is starting to dry out while he is working it smooth. You can damn near polish the surface smooth.

If done right it's just a very light sand and your done if there is texture I usually don't even sand.

Cole
that way works but if you spray the mud it is super fast and not with a hopper. I put my hopper in the trash
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that way works but if you spray the mud it is super fast and not with a hopper. I put my hopper in the trash
Yeah I don't have a sprayer just a hopper because I only do additions and suck less than 30 boards at a time. If it's bigger than that I just sub it to the drywall guys.

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When I skim coat (not Level 5) but a skim coat to level out old texture. I don't thin my compound at all I feel it makes it shrink to much. We do this with two people with one person it just takes too much time.

First I start off with a premixed 4.5 bucket of Lafarge Rapid Coat Rapid Drying It's the light green top.

You take a stiff 6" knife Spin it in a circle with one edge on th outside of the bucket. This one move does a few things for you.
1. it compresses the mud driving out the air bubbles.
2. it makes a nice roll of mud on your knife
3. it scrapes the side of the bucket clean. This prevents chunks on the inside of the bucket drying out and getting transferred into your finish. Also making cleaning out a bucket take about 20 seconds with a scotchbrite pad.

Now you have a nice compressed roll of mud on your 6" knife. Next grab you 12" knife and work the mud one time. To make sure there are no air bubbles left. Take your mud on the 6" and roll it across your 12" making a nice line of mud evenly across the 12" knife now you are ready to apply to the wall.

Spread out on the wall coating the whole surface doesn't have to be perfectly smooth. There can be small knife marks and such the important thing is to get it coat fairly even.

This is where the second guy comes in. After the first guy gets the wall coated the second guy is fallowing behind him with a 16" or 20" what ever is more comfortable. He is taking that big knife and is smoothing everything out. No knife marks, bubbles or ridges. The mud is starting to dry out while he is working it smooth. You can damn near polish the surface smooth.

If done right it's just a very light sand and your done if there is texture I usually don't even sand.

Cole
Cole, If you ran a first coat on bead/bed coat with that mud would it be ready/dry to second coat the next morning?
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Cole, If you ran a first coat on bead/bed coat with that mud would it be ready/dry to second coat the next morning?

Never tried that mud. Even though those Lafarge boys took me on an a all expense paid guided fishing trip in the Bahamas.
For sure dry over night. If you open the windows and get fans moving some air across it you can do a second coat the same day. Here are some pics of a basement we just finished 2 weeks ago.

This basement we muded in two days. Bed everything first day, dry over night. The next morning did second coat until about 11:00am let it dry with fans. Sprayed texture about 4:00pm.

It was a DIY project gone bad. How it looked when we got there.





Here is all finished up, ready for carpet.





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just did a house...needed to remove hard crap of the leds
I used my 10 12 and 8 box to do this job no hand tools to skim the leds smooth
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For sure dry over night. If you open the windows and get fans moving some air across it you can do a second coat the same day. Here are some pics of a basement we just finished 2 weeks ago.

This basement we muded in two days. Bed everything first day, dry over night. The next morning did second coat until about 11:00am let it dry with fans. Sprayed texture about 4:00pm.

It was a DIY project gone bad. How it looked when we got there.





Here is all finished up, ready for carpet.





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