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Old 12-13-2006, 08:19 AM   #1
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What Is Skip Trowel


I've have a bid this afternoon and the customer told me on the phone he wants skip trowel. I did a few lookies around the internet to get a look at what it is, the confusing part is I have no idea how to do it. Any idea's?
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:40 AM   #2
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Re: What Is Skip Trowel


Around here it's a term used for stucco, usually exterior.

Terminology often varies with regions. Maybe HE is using the wrong term and he wants knockdown. Ask him some more questions.

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Old 12-13-2006, 10:06 AM   #3
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Re: What Is Skip Trowel


skip trowel is the stucco equivalent of brocade. The finish looks the same. Brocade on sheetrock, skip trowel on stucco.

The application process is completely different. It works differently because of the sand in the stucco and the stickyness of drywall mud.
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Re: What Is Skip Trowel


This may be a silly question but what is brocade. Remember im new to texturing. I have been doing knockdown, orange peel and popcorn for awhile now but i haven't heard of brocade.
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I once heard an Okie describe it as hump-n-drag. Sounds perverted to me.

Mud is pretty wet. Hod has a pad wrapped in a towel, with the mud on it, cross hatch pattern to mud made with 12" knife. Apply lightly to the ceiling. You get a whole bunch of little stalactites hanging down. Lightly trowel the stalactites to flatten them.

You end up with a ceiling at two levels, about 1/16" apart, in a fairly random texture.
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That sounds easy enough. Do you have any pictures of this texture.
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That sounds easy enough. Do you have any pictures of this texture.
All the ceilings in my house were done this way and I never knew how it was done. It looks like this is what you guys are talking about. It was done by some contractor out of Canada. Maybe the Canadianís do things different?

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That looks a lot like skip trowel stucco. Everybody has their own 'fingerprint' which makes repairs difficult to match.
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The knockdown finish like that shown in CE1's post is done by spraying joint compound on the drywall letting it dry for 10 or 15 minutes, then troweling to "knock down" the bumps.

More info here, also pics showing the spraying tools.
http://www.extremehowto.com/xh/artic...ticle_id=60312
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so what you are saying is that brocade = knockdown. Because ive been doing knockdown and orange peel for some time now. I just hadnt heard of brocade.
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Re: What Is Skip Trowel


The popular 'knockdown' finish here AKA 'California knockdown' is much smaller and has no resemblance to the finish shown.

What is shown looks much like skip trowel. I have never seen it here in drywall. Again, may be a regional thing.
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Skip trowel texture is very popular here in Cali, I like skip trowel when its done right....if not it looks like a disaster!
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Can you post a pic?
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Can you post a pic?
I dont have any pics up close of knockdown texture unfortunately
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Heres a helpfull link and various pics of textures,looks like they even explain how to achieve certain textures

http://www.drywallschool.com/textures.htm
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We just went from skip to knockdown?????????
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some more links

http://custom-ceilings.com/photo_gallery.htm
http://www.patchmasters.com/styles.html
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We just went from skip to knockdown?????????
somehow we did........ I missed the fact that the first link posted doesnt show any skip trowel, even though the website claims the first pic is "skip trowel"
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Re: What Is Skip Trowel


Thanks for the info. That's not popular inside here. Stucco may be carried into a Florida room interior but I have never seen it carried beyond there.

Old Spanish homes with plaster walls are another subject.
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There are so many different textures you can make up call them what you want. most knock down finishes are so easy to do, we use plaster cause you can keep it wet by splashing it with a wet mop brush then hit it with a trowel or knife, I have a 24" knife I use on knock down, but as for making the stucco finishes we add sand to the plaster, we also use stipple brushes to reproduct the textures the old timers made back in the 1920's.

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