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Old 09-11-2017, 07:41 PM   #1
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Retaping Wider Than Tape


Need to run 2 widths of tape over a failed joint, that's been cleaned. I've stayed away from this in the past, but have to do it now. Can't cut the whole thing out and re-sheet the way it should be done.

Is the best course ;

-> Run (1) width [pulling it fairly tight with the compound?] and let dry, then do the next as an overlap?

Or both at same time.
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Old 09-11-2017, 07:44 PM   #2
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Re: Retaping Wider Than Tape


Why can't you cut it out and do it properly?

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Why can't you cut it out and do it properly?
a) this was the result of a room extension, and joists on this ceiling are hit and miss and hobbled, at best, there is no straight nailer and everything is now concealed - there is a horizontal bow between new and old - and b) it was bid as a patch and repair, for painting, excluding structural movement. And to me it looks like there could be movement between the old beam and the new beam, maybe the way it was attached? Once I open this drum of snakes, I could be doing entire sheets and dealing with going behind crown mould...

Before starting work, it was a simple linear crack, a small fraction of it's present cleared-out width.

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Got a pic?

Being this is a patch AND repair, unless you are clear about the limitations of your proposed method, your approach sounds like one that may come back to bite you, which is why you might be second guessing yourself...

Avoid the bites altogether, explain to the customer what your investigation discovered and propose the correct solution... if they don't want to do that, get it in writing, its limitation, and get pics and get them to sign off on the finished product once they're aware in writing...

Case in point... http://www.contractortalk.com/f11/do...action-360474/
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Prefill it, slap a piece of tape on it, wipe, slap another peice of tape on it, wipe. Let dry. Then coat.

If it starts, to bulge you can shave it off just before it sets completely up.

Or cut it out and put a piece of rock back in it.


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You can also cut it out and pack it with hot mud, let it dry then tape and coat it.


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Pre fill and use this fabric. This is the spun fiberglass not the fiberglass open mesh


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RGX178..._t3_B000M2T0VG
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Pre fill and use this fabric. This is the spun fiberglass not the fiberglass open mesh

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RGX178..._t3_B000M2T0VG
I like their regular tape...

Speculating on whether or not this might hold strong enough when areas of attachment wander an inch or so from any common joist?

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The dw pcs - cutouts that run wild - you have to back those up with dw or plywood. Slip the back up behind the existing - hold tight while screwing from the finish side.
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How about drywall adhesive after the fact?

Poke a hole through (at least on the ceiling, and let it settle back near a beam). http://www.liquidnails.com/products/wall-adhesive-DWP24

For walls without adequate support, I don't know...no like I can stuff a 1x3 behind it...or even a metal clip..
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...Slip the back up behind the existing - hold tight while screwing from the finish side.
There's no opening to slip anything through.. by coincidence I finished my prior post before seeing yours...
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I'm not sure I completely understand, but sounds like plaster washers and long screws to stabilize.
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I'm not sure I completely understand, but sounds like plaster washers and long screws to stabilize.
What kind of plastic washers? You proposing getting them to the wall cavity side?

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