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Old 05-06-2008, 12:57 PM   #1
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Would like to pick your brains on sq ft cost for drywall labor on prevailing wage jobs in Ohio.
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Old 05-06-2008, 05:57 PM   #2
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I guess it depends on the job difficulty and how many sheets per hour to hang on average? Do the math.

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2.00/ft.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:20 PM   #4
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2.00/ft.
I was going to say $2.25/ft but $2.00/ft will do.
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I'll under cut those guys (1.80) so I can get the job and charge you a bunch of extras and get it up to 2.27 per foot.
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Since prevailing wage is based on hourly rates rather than piece-rates, your question is a bit confusing.
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ditto.....
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Would like to pick your brains on sq ft cost for drywall labor on prevailing wage jobs in Ohio.

Should be pretty easy to back into. If you don't know it, seach for your counties prevailing wage report online. You can probably find it by googling the name of your county plus "prevailing wage".

You will need to do this for both your hanger and tapers.

Add your prevailing wage plus benefits burden to get the hourly rate. Multiply it by the number of hours in your workday, then divide that number by the sheets per day you budget the job at. Then just divide that by the number of SF per sheet.

Add both you taper and hanger rates together. Add in your material cost, plus freight, scrapping, etc, and add your profit and margin. There's your base price which you can then futz with as you feel you need to based on job conditions.

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Hanger
Wage - 38.00
Burden - 60% (pension, H&W, Taxes) etc.
BPD based on 4x12 - 36

$38 x 1.60 = $60.80 per hour x 8 hours = $486.40 per day
486.40 / 36 bpd = $13.51 per board / 48 sf per = .28 per SF
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Wage - 35.00
Burden - 60% (pension, H&W, Taxes) etc.
BPD based on 4x12 - 36

$35 x 1.60 = $56.00 per hour x 8 hours = $448.00 per day
448.00 / 36 bpd = $12.44 per board / 48 sf per = .26 per SF
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Per SF -

Hanger - $0.28
Taper - $0.26
Total Labor per SF = $0.54

Board - $0.25
Accessories - $0.07
Total Materials per SF= $0.32
Tax - 0.29 x 8% = $0.35

Freight - $0.06
Scrapping - $0.02
Tools - $0.02
Stocking - $0.03
Sundries Total per SF = $0.13
So....

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Labor = $0.54
Material = $0.35
Sundries = $0.13
Total per SF = $1.02

Then add your overhead percent and profit margin.

$1.02 x 1.10 x 1.25 = $1.40 per SF of board.
Now obviously, your numbers will differ on what you pay for board, what type of board, production rates, required accessories, finish level, et. But that's you basic formula there... it looks complex, but it really isn't once you know your wage rates, burdens, and material costs.

I don't think I missed anything, but I'm sure someone will speak up if I did.
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As being a Union finisher, I wish i could do 36 boards per day.
Its like 4 to 1. 4 carpenter/sheeetrock to 1 finisher.
So about 80 to 100 boards to tape n finish per day.
Depends on the job.
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Should be pretty easy to back into. If you don't know it, seach for your counties prevailing wage report online. You can probably find it by googling the name of your county plus "prevailing wage".

You will need to do this for both your hanger and tapers.

Add your prevailing wage plus benefits burden to get the hourly rate. Multiply it by the number of hours in your workday, then divide that number by the sheets per day you budget the job at. Then just divide that by the number of SF per sheet.

Add both you taper and hanger rates together. Add in your material cost, plus freight, scrapping, etc, and add your profit and margin. There's your base price which you can then futz with as you feel you need to based on job conditions.







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Now obviously, your numbers will differ on what you pay for board, what type of board, production rates, required accessories, finish level, et. But that's you basic formula there... it looks complex, but it really isn't once you know your wage rates, burdens, and material costs.

I don't think I missed anything, but I'm sure someone will speak up if I did.
So around your neck of the woods hangers make more money per hour than tapers? That seems a little backwards.
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So around your neck of the woods hangers make more money per hour than tapers? That seems a little backwards.

Ayup.

Hangers = Carpenters
Tapers = Painters
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Ayup.

Hangers = Carpenters
Tapers = Painters
Here in Jersey the carpenters get on a union scale about $5.00 more a hour.
They feel that we shouldnt even get the money we get. I feel we should make the same. Because if it wasnt for us. They would be stuck. Come on who would fix it all and finish putting in all the screws.
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Come on who would fix it all and finish putting in all the screws.
lol I can feel another thread coming on

You can spend hours on some jobs doing just that. Screws are my biggest gripe. It wasn't so bad (bad enough though) when you could take a hammer to the nails (before screws came along) but screws are another story
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Even worse are the miss tips that hang out and seem to pop out even on 3rd coat!
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where can I find a job that pays tapers $448.00 per day and how much of that do I get to keep..before uncle sham takes the illegal taxes out..

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