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Old 07-24-2006, 05:55 PM   #21
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drywall is cheeper and it last longer,plaster is always cracking.

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Old 07-24-2006, 06:57 PM   #22
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what???
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I second that...what?

Must have bad workmanship or wrong design if the plaster cracks. What area is that problem in?
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I second that...what?

Must have bad workmanship or wrong design if the plaster cracks. What area is that problem in?
sothern california, and i could earn a living just fixing plaster cracks.and if your going to say its because of earthquakes that just makes my point,because drywall doesnt break up like the plaster.drywall last longer and is more durable.

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That would still be due to not building in proper expansion / flexibility joints to allow movement with the structure.

Properly installed plaster lasts centuries. Drywall last decades, wears badly from daily use, and gets ruined by even a small amount of moisture that turns it to paste.
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sorry, but i see it every day all over socal. its not just one track of homes where one company could have done a bad job. its everywhere and socal is a pretty big area.and ive also seen plaster turn to mush due to water damage.......drywall .........plaster
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Go to Italy and take a look at all those ancient drywalled walls over there that are still looking good after 500 years. Oops, sorry, they are all plaster!
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Drywall vs Plaster...

Hmmm...

Concrete Block vs Precast

Thin Brick Veneer vs Solid Brick

All systems are made for various reasons, and all have their own benifits and drawbacks. Both drywall and plaster give the relative same finished look, but both are inherently different in cost, application, and use.

As far as the lasting issue goes. Most houses today aren't made so well that they will outlive drywall. Some are though. Most houses wouldn't sell for more with plaster on the walls as apposed to drywall. Johnny and Suzie Homemaker do not know the difference...That's why we have drywall in all it's prevalence. Drywall is a great product for specific uses, as too is plaster in specific instances. To compare the two in competition with one another really is an apples vs oranges debate..

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plaster is dead dont be sad.us drywallers will take it from here.
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I'm not so sure I would call it dead. It has been diminished to a large degree, but it still comprises a portion of the market, and probably always will. The big problem has been due to lack of skilled plasterers over the years. It is a trade like so many others that doesn't have the new group of tradesmen practicing. Now that is due in part to a cost difference, and to the fast and cheap motto that builders are made to adhere to these days. Believe me that if it was given as an option in high end housing, and if contractors extolled it's virtues(not to mention could find someone capable of applying it) it would rebound nicely...
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i got a buddy out at lake las vagas where the building is about as high end as it gets, from workmanship to materials,and its all 5/8's drywall baby. so i disagree with the above post.
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The draw back to drywall is the paper and chalk which don't stand up to much. Great for the reno business. Alternatives like magnesiacore which is board material made of magnesium oxide that should outlive plaster and is as strong as concrete but in thin board form.
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Again plaster is much longer lasting, better looking, more sound resistant, more fire retardant than sheetrock...
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Yes there are multi million dollar mansions with drywall. No doubt about it. I'm a drywall guy by trade. It's a great product. But the issue of time is in favor of plaster. You can't argue. Drywall was originally "plasterboard". It was a cheaper faster alternative to plaster. No body can say it's superior except in the "cheaper" "faster" realm. In my experience cheaper and faster generally do not give you the higher quality results. The fact is that home owners whether they be billionaires or paupers generally do not know quality when it comes to construction materials. That's why Home Depot and Lowes are such big hits with them. All they generally care about are amenities such as counters, stoves, bathtubs, etc. When given the choice of paying more for walls or bathtubs, tubs will win everytime. The fact is most people won't live at a house long enough for the time issue to even be a factor. Years ago when people intended for their houses to be passed from generation to generation it mattered. Not anymore...hence drywall.
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you guy arent hearing me,im not lieing when i say most plaster houses i go to have cracks running through them. in some cases there are ceilings that are sagging because the plaster is letting go of the wood slats.once again maybe thats because of earthquakes but the drywall holds up fine. so as far as im concerned......plaster is a bad investment.
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For ceilings I can see that if the support is not as strong enough it can sag because plaster is much heavier than drywall.

I remeber doing portland cement plaster in the 70's on expanded metal lath and it was rock hard solid. Nothing would crack it.

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you guy arent hearing me,im not lieing when i say most plaster houses i go to have cracks running through them. in some cases there are ceilings that are sagging because the plaster is letting go of the wood slats.once again maybe thats because of earthquakes but the drywall holds up fine. so as far as im concerned......plaster is a bad investment.
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I hear you loud and clear my good man. I'm sure earthquakes can cause havoc with plaster. I've seen it have a bad effect on drywall as well. No you won't get cracks running all over the place just at the joints. Like I said I am a drywall guy...I love it. No problem with it, except the things I and others have noted such as soundness of the wall in general. When installed PROPERLY it will out live drywall, as well it should...
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well we are starting to just say the same things over and over, so its time to move on to the nexed thread, because this one is all used up.
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Most plaster down here is just hardcoat over blackrock. I grew up with plaster... real pain in the butt however, long as the roof doesn't leak it will last longer than rock. I think there is one craftsman here in town besides me that actually knows what real plaster is.

Point I was making I suppose was that nice old plaster, craftsmen always left a painter a little edge on the ceiling, most modern rockers slop finish on with an "instant" edger. I'd do the plaster but for a novice? Better find a good plasterman.
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With a material that comes in board form that can be screwed to studwork with more strength and resistance than plaster or cement and can even be jointed without using taping, you can have plasterlike walls in less time and with less skill needed than for doing drywall boarding.

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