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MeatBallDryWall · 09-07-2009, 12:30 PM

Nice work Mr Frank! I wish I had the opportunity to learn plaster work. I have a question about that drywall lift you used. Isn't that made by biljax? I have a telepro & never used a biljax. The telepro's casters WILL NOT roll over anything & the damn cable gets bound up, etc. How does that one work? Is the lift easier or smoother compared to the telepro? How about stability with 4 legs/casters? Keep up the good work!!

Hope everyone has a great Labor Day!

Frankawitz · 09-08-2009, 05:38 AM

Thanks,
Yeah that's a Biljax I have had it for about 12 years now, It has paid for its self many times over. I haven't used any other lifts, but this one is smooth when it's lifting and the casters do get hung up on drops well I should say the brakes on the wheels get hung up, but this was a great buy at $625.00 I hang 5/8's board all the time with it, the lift is heavy but it works great. the ceiling in the pictures is 9' 6" the thing I like is even when I have ceilings with 14' heights I have set it on my Bakker to make up the height up with the four legs it rests just right so it's stabil. it's just a bitch getting it on the Bakker. I like it cause it's one of my best workers doesn't talk and never complains

MeatBallDryWall · 09-08-2009, 07:14 AM

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I like it cause it's one of my best workers doesn't talk and never complains

A-MEN to that! lol Does it use a cable system for lift as well?

Frankawitz · 09-09-2009, 06:21 AM

yeah, it has a cable thats run inside the mast then it comes up over a wheel and then down to the hand crank, works real smooth, it was worth the money believe me

Frankawitz · 09-12-2009, 07:57 PM

Well went back today I set up the bakker and dropped the room out I have to make the profile of the crown then I'll make my knife. the thing that sucks is I can only work on Saturdays and Sundays

I aint complaining I am thankful to have the work coming in. here's some pictures.

rogerhattman · 09-13-2009, 11:49 AM

Frank,
Some questions:
1) It appears that the original construction was wood lath for walls/ceiling with bracketed metal lath for coring out the cornice. Is that correct?
2) I was curious what you use for your horse. Do you use marine ply? Galvanized or zinc for the blade?
Nice job of documenting the job for us.
Roger

Frankawitz · 09-13-2009, 11:31 PM

Roger yeah it was wood lath and ribbed metal lath, I am using wire mesh doubled up, I ran it under the edge of thr sheet rock, the framing in the room is so off. I put a lazer level on the crown and it's all right, As for the horse I have used Galvanized, works ok I file the edges up so the mud follows off the back edge. I put the Peel Away on a section of the cornice so I can get a good mold for the casting. I wont be going back intil next Saturday so the paint should all come off. Have you ever used the Peel Away for repairs? I took some more photo's

rogerhattman · 09-14-2009, 09:46 AM

Peel Away 1 (the alkali based one, if I recall) works ok. Peel Away 7 is a bucket of crap. Just make sure you neutralize.
Are you able to get it off cleanly? I find that it sometimes leaves a mess. I usually go for methylene chloride or multi-strip, but I have not had to strip detailed plaster ornament as you have.
Here is nice article on the subject. I cannot post the link because the forum won't let me.
.scribd.com/doc/11541416/Cleaning-Decorating-Decorative-Plaster

put www in front of it.

Frankawitz · 09-14-2009, 05:48 PM

Roger, I use the 7 and have had good results with it, I had picture on my site of a job I did 1924 house 5200 sqft, had cornice in a dining room water damage from flat roof drain, trashed it, I used the 7 and then I used TSP and clean water the plaster was clean, then I sprayed it with a releasing agent that I used with the rubber mold, it silacone and I seal that with BM Freshstart primer.
I figure by the time I go back down the paint should be falling off, I have used the Peel Away on a few jobs and I know it will remove paint from anything, I like it better then other strippers I have used, and then theres the good old heat gun

Oh the paint fumes

But I also found that if you use 3M plastic masking paper, it keeps the Peel Away wet and it break the paints down.

mikeswoods · 09-14-2009, 06:18 PM

Very interesting----------going to have to google peal away-----------------thanks

rogerhattman · 09-15-2009, 06:07 PM

Frank,
Interesting tip about the 3M paper. I found that the peel away 7 seemed to dry/suction out before it did anything. I was mainly using it on brick, which is tough anyway. You are right, though, the key is keeping it wet. The supplied paper is not the greatest. I will definitely try some 3m paper.
Thank you,
Roger

jmr · 09-16-2009, 06:17 PM

jesus christ that looks like a nightmare.. props

Frankawitz · 09-17-2009, 05:54 AM

jmr, really it's not that bad.
Roger
The way I came across using the 3M paper is I ran out of the supplied paper which I agree doesn't keep the Peel Away wet, I had some in a bucket and I was stripping paint off a garage door, it worked better so I have two rolls of it, so I have plenty.

Frankawitz · 09-20-2009, 08:56 AM

Well I went back yesterday and removed the Peel Away, It was starting to dry out but I got 98% of the paint off the moulding, Now as soon as the supplys get here I'll seal it and the apply the rubber mold. well here some pictures.

Frankawitz · 09-20-2009, 08:59 AM

Now here's a close up of the moulding

Frankawitz · 09-20-2009, 09:38 AM

Now I'm gonna show you another room in the same house. I have to say this has to be one of the worst water damage I have seen, this is what happens when you have a roof leak and you don't make repairs. I know when it comes time to repair this I know the wood framing will be questionable

But it looks like something out of a cave.

Frankawitz · 09-20-2009, 09:41 AM

Oh and here's another picture of someones take on how to repair a ceiling

rogerhattman · 09-21-2009, 10:23 AM

That old cornice is pretty sharp. What nice detail. I still wonder why such things have fallen so completely out favor today (I know costs are big factor, but one would think somebody would want quality).

Frankawitz · 09-21-2009, 06:24 PM

I hear what your saying, I put a 9" plaster crown with a small 3" cornice moulding in one of my bedrooms, If I ever finish this place of mine all rooms will have some type of plaster crown with cornice, cornice, medillions. I have two plaster colums in the arch of my foyer their 5', as for the cost, yeah, I charge for doing this type of work, just because at times it's so teetest strippin the paint, I spent 5 hours picking and then washed it down.
I was going to move out to Las Vegas a few years back, I figured the way they were building out there, I might hook up with a builder do some custom plaster work out there, but I couldn't get any money together to make the move. But with doing repairs I get these jobs once every couple of years. I would like to do more but hey. Some people will leave water damage for years and not have it fixed, I did a house and these people had water damage and I mean water coming in every time it rained or snowed,

For 18 years they lived like that

there were 6 rooms out of 9 in the house with damage

I have so many pictures of all the repairs I've done I could do a book just in pictures.

Frankawitz · 10-01-2009, 08:22 PM

Well I picked up the rubber mold from distributor so this Saturday I'll make my mold for casting.