Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors

MeatBallDryWall

Nice work Mr Frank! I wish I had the opportunity to learn plaster work. I have a question about that drywall lift you used. Isn't that made by biljax? I have a telepro & never used a biljax. The telepro's casters WILL NOT roll over anything & the damn cable gets bound up, etc. How does that one work? Is the lift easier or smoother compared to the telepro? How about stability with 4 legs/casters? Keep up the good work!!

Hope everyone has a great Labor Day!

Frankawitz

Thanks,
Yeah that's a Biljax I have had it for about 12 years now, It has paid for its self many times over. I haven't used any other lifts, but this one is smooth when it's lifting and the casters do get hung up on drops well I should say the brakes on the wheels get hung up, but this was a great buy at $625.00 I hang 5/8's board all the time with it, the lift is heavy but it works great. the ceiling in the pictures is 9' 6" the thing I like is even when I have ceilings with 14' heights I have set it on my Bakker to make up the height up with the four legs it rests just right so it's stabil. it's just a bitch getting it on the Bakker. I like it cause it's one of my best workers doesn't talk and never complains

MeatBallDryWall

A-MEN to that! lol Does it use a cable system for lift as well?

Frankawitz

yeah, it has a cable thats run inside the mast then it comes up over a wheel and then down to the hand crank, works real smooth, it was worth the money believe me

Frankawitz

Well went back today I set up the bakker and dropped the room out I have to make the profile of the crown then I'll make my knife. the thing that sucks is I can only work on Saturdays and Sundays
I aint complaining I am thankful to have the work coming in. here's some pictures.

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rogerhattman

Frank,
Some questions:
1) It appears that the original construction was wood lath for walls/ceiling with bracketed metal lath for coring out the cornice. Is that correct?
2) I was curious what you use for your horse. Do you use marine ply? Galvanized or zinc for the blade?
Nice job of documenting the job for us.
Roger

Frankawitz

Roger yeah it was wood lath and ribbed metal lath, I am using wire mesh doubled up, I ran it under the edge of thr sheet rock, the framing in the room is so off. I put a lazer level on the crown and it's all right, As for the horse I have used Galvanized, works ok I file the edges up so the mud follows off the back edge. I put the Peel Away on a section of the cornice so I can get a good mold for the casting. I wont be going back intil next Saturday so the paint should all come off. Have you ever used the Peel Away for repairs? I took some more photo's

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rogerhattman

Peel Away 1 (the alkali based one, if I recall) works ok. Peel Away 7 is a bucket of crap. Just make sure you neutralize.
Are you able to get it off cleanly? I find that it sometimes leaves a mess. I usually go for methylene chloride or multi-strip, but I have not had to strip detailed plaster ornament as you have.
Here is nice article on the subject. I cannot post the link because the forum won't let me.
.scribd.com/doc/11541416/Cleaning-Decorating-Decorative-Plaster

put www in front of it.

Frankawitz

Roger, I use the 7 and have had good results with it, I had picture on my site of a job I did 1924 house 5200 sqft, had cornice in a dining room water damage from flat roof drain, trashed it, I used the 7 and then I used TSP and clean water the plaster was clean, then I sprayed it with a releasing agent that I used with the rubber mold, it silacone and I seal that with BM Freshstart primer.
I figure by the time I go back down the paint should be falling off, I have used the Peel Away on a few jobs and I know it will remove paint from anything, I like it better then other strippers I have used, and then theres the good old heat gun Oh the paint fumes
But I also found that if you use 3M plastic masking paper, it keeps the Peel Away wet and it break the paints down.

mikeswoods

Very interesting----------going to have to google peal away-----------------thanks

rogerhattman

Frank,
Interesting tip about the 3M paper. I found that the peel away 7 seemed to dry/suction out before it did anything. I was mainly using it on brick, which is tough anyway. You are right, though, the key is keeping it wet. The supplied paper is not the greatest. I will definitely try some 3m paper.
Thank you,
Roger

jmr

jesus christ that looks like a nightmare.. props

Frankawitz

jmr, really it's not that bad.
Roger
The way I came across using the 3M paper is I ran out of the supplied paper which I agree doesn't keep the Peel Away wet, I had some in a bucket and I was stripping paint off a garage door, it worked better so I have two rolls of it, so I have plenty.

Frankawitz

Well I went back yesterday and removed the Peel Away, It was starting to dry out but I got 98% of the paint off the moulding, Now as soon as the supplys get here I'll seal it and the apply the rubber mold. well here some pictures.

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Frankawitz

Now here's a close up of the moulding

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Frankawitz

Now I'm gonna show you another room in the same house. I have to say this has to be one of the worst water damage I have seen, this is what happens when you have a roof leak and you don't make repairs. I know when it comes time to repair this I know the wood framing will be questionable
But it looks like something out of a cave.

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Frankawitz

Oh and here's another picture of someones take on how to repair a ceiling

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rogerhattman

That old cornice is pretty sharp. What nice detail. I still wonder why such things have fallen so completely out favor today (I know costs are big factor, but one would think somebody would want quality).

Frankawitz

I hear what your saying, I put a 9" plaster crown with a small 3" cornice moulding in one of my bedrooms, If I ever finish this place of mine all rooms will have some type of plaster crown with cornice, cornice, medillions. I have two plaster colums in the arch of my foyer their 5', as for the cost, yeah, I charge for doing this type of work, just because at times it's so teetest strippin the paint, I spent 5 hours picking and then washed it down.
I was going to move out to Las Vegas a few years back, I figured the way they were building out there, I might hook up with a builder do some custom plaster work out there, but I couldn't get any money together to make the move. But with doing repairs I get these jobs once every couple of years. I would like to do more but hey. Some people will leave water damage for years and not have it fixed, I did a house and these people had water damage and I mean water coming in every time it rained or snowed,
For 18 years they lived like that there were 6 rooms out of 9 in the house with damage
I have so many pictures of all the repairs I've done I could do a book just in pictures.

Frankawitz

Well I picked up the rubber mold from distributor so this Saturday I'll make my mold for casting.