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I hope you don't get any call backs for this project. I seem to remember a while back you writing that , and I am paraphrasing here, This method is amaturish and hack like and the problem with wannabe plasterers. Just sayin. I new I was right then.............................................. Mike
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Well as this job moves on the Plumber came out the other day, I had to go in and cut out a section in the other room so the plumber could see how much pipe he was going replace, well he only needs to run one section of pipe
Or should I have told her well listen I will see what I can do to lower the price so we can get this ceiling repaired for you! according to you being the PROFESSIONAL that you are, I should have walked? instead of lowing my price, but heres another thing, when I changed the scope of work I was able to do it for less cause I cut the labor and materials so I managed to bring the price down where the HomeOwner could afford to have the work done. But I guess I'm just one of those HACKS you talked about huh? Mr. Professional
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
I really have enjoyed the pictures and seeing your work.
Please don't let a few know nothing know it alls get under your skin. Negotiating and adjusting a proposal is a fine art that some on this site do not understand and probably never will. I admire your work--and the fact that you HAVE work speaks for it self. Please keep the pictures coming. |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
I agree with the previous poster, and will add that the fact that you changed your scope to lower your price, but were still more expensive than the other two bids and still got the job speaks volumes to either your skills as a plasterer and/or your skills as a businessman.
I wish I knew the art of plastering, no one that I know of around here does it. It is a shame too. When we did the demo portion of my house remodel I hated to tear down the plaster, all the hard work those guys did 103+ years ago, poof. But because of poor maintenance by previous owners, it had to come down. |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
fr8train,
Sorry to hear that, I have seen that a lot people talk to some guy who says he knows how to do something like plaster and then turns around and rips all the plaster out and stick up drywall tapes and muds and calls it plastering So I have a hard time with these type of guys. If I do work in another field I do it just like it should be done, I don't cut corners, if anything I usually over build according to my friend who's a rough carpenter, when we worked on my house and we had to frame in some walls, he told me "Dude you don't need to put metal wind braces in when your using OSB", well I did it anyways, he just shook his head and said "your something else" But like I told him when I do my plaster work I tell people it should last over a 100 years. |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Well the plumbers finished up with the new pipes sp I closed up the ceiling and now I have to put in metal lath for the Crown and I'll start base coating and skim coating today, here's the latest pictures.
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Nice work. Hand troweled plaster is a lost art here in NYC. So many stunning built up mouldings get torn out at replaced with L3 drywall.
How are you going to rebuild the moulding? |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Fun to watch.
Please keep us tuned in. MIKE |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
I started mudding everything in today. when I got there this morning I start setting up and I find a water spot on the blue trap
I tell the home owner and she calls the plumbers. the plumber has no idea where the water is coming from I just kept working well after they left I asked her what did they say, she said they think it's the tile, so I took a look at it I pulled the caulk out of the corner of the tub and took my 5 in 1 and push the blade right in the wall I said theres the problemdownstairs I filled in the gaps around the room, I got the Crown base coated so now I will base coat the rest of the ceiling, then come back and work the top two steps of the Crown. Last edited by Frankawitz; 08-20-2009 at 05:32 PM. |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Heres were I finished up the home owner had to leave so I got 6 hours in.
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Well heres how its going so far
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Great pictures!! Always like seeing pictures!
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Well I got 3/4 of the ceiling skim coated, I still have a little work on the Crown above the fireplace, The Home Owner was saying yesterday that I need to get her a price on doing the rest of the Crown, which this will be around $3,500 so even tho I didn't get the full price I originaly quoted, I will end up with making $6,600.
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Interesting, you work hard for your money!
Great pictures. |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Mike, I take my time and it's not at all hard, I have worked on this ceiling now for three weeks, I don't have a helper I work by myself. But I hope to finish up today on the ceiling and Crown I repaired, then I'll come back in a few weeks and start the Crown Cornice Moulding.
The last picture is of a sun rise I watched yesterday morning. looks like it's on fire |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Frankawitz,
You have some crazy mad skills. Thanks for the pictures. |
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Well I got the ceiling done I sanded it out and then primed it, I was starting to spackle it and of course I run out of spackling, so I have to go back in the morning and finish up spoting out the ceiling and crown, then I have a estimate at 2:00 and then I'm suppost to start another job Monday. I can't complain work is coming in.
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Well went back in yesterday to finish up spackling the ceiling so now it's ready for paint, I gave her the price for the Crown Cornice moulding she told me she would need to save up so she can pay me, but I'm going back in on the 12th of September to do that work.
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Well I will be going back on the 12th to start working on the Crown more pictures will be posted. now I'm working on a three bedroom house, had plaster repair in Living room.
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Re: Plaster Estimate And Other Contractors
Heres some more pictures I like the last one a Painter or Handyman used clothes line to fill the crack in the cove
Then below the picture moulding they had more rope down to the mantel
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