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Profit is not dirty.
Trade: Residential Drywall and Taping
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Prince George BC Canada
Posts: 420
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No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.As you may have read from other posts of mine, I own my own drywall company. We are small, but honest. I have been boarding for over 15 years, and now want to or shall i say am going to learn how to tape. I have done taping before, and its nothing new, except that fact that now i am responsable for any problems,....(issue here) hense that is the reason why i am taking up the trade. I have orderd a wack of taping tools, Columbia and Can-am. I know how they are used, and the theroy, behind them, so i am confadant i can do this... BUT... I have been looking into the No -Coat bead, and am thinking that is the way to go. I would greatly appriciate any feedback that i can get on this product. It is relativly new here in pg.. i know many of the tapers around our parts, and they are all getting close to retirement, and the ones that remaine are pertty set in their ways, and products. I need you info, and suggestions. Muchly appriciated. Jay Seel AARC Drywall. |
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Pro
Trade: drywall
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: alberta
Posts: 171
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
Paper bead (glue on type) is cheaper than no coat. I only use no coat if I am doing a peak ceiling or an off angle that the regular offset bead won't work on because of framing issues.
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Profit is not dirty.
Trade: Residential Drywall and Taping
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Prince George BC Canada
Posts: 420
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
I have yet to get the quote back for a box of no-coat, but most of my contractors like the idea, and dont mind that it may be more expensive.
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New Guy
Trade: Metal Framing, Sheetrocking, Taping
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 28
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
I personally have not used the no coat bead (because I have not been taping lately), but our tapers request it. It seems like a good idea, and if it saves some headaches, call backs, or time.....it is well worth the extra cost!!!
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Pro
Trade: Drywall
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 322
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
I like it for off angle beads, it spreads easy by hand. For regular corners (90) I like the paper-faced metal beads, they coat out better IMO, the no-coats are heavier and don't lay as flat. Plus, I like haveing metal in the corner as opposed to just paper, but no-coats are a good bead. BTW, no-coat is the name brand, they still need to be coated like any other bead, says so right on the box.
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Registered User
Trade: taper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: waterloo on
Posts: 12
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
I agree nocoat is awesome. Get a flat applicator for your can am tube to put the mud on. If the boarders are good use straight flex or even the thin nocoat to save a few pennies
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Profit is not dirty.
Trade: Residential Drywall and Taping
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Prince George BC Canada
Posts: 420
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
What is a box worth... for outside 90 and how many feet in box
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Pro
Trade: Residential Remodeling
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 407
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
100 feet per box. 2, 3 1/4 and 4 1/2 inch wide versions available. Also Zooma-Flex that can be run through a Bazooka.
REally makes getting straight corners easy and fast. Saves mud and time. Doesn't rust or dent like metal. Strait-Flex may be a little better at impact resistance if you use their "Big" product. |
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New Guy
Trade: Drywall
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Highland, Ca
Posts: 27
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
Are we talking Ultratrim or Ultraflex? The Ultraflex is the hinged flexible tape and comes in a roll, can be used for inside corners, outside corners, and off angles. The Ultratrim is the stiff variety that comes 50 pieces to box in lengths of 8', 9', 10', and 12'. Since it is 50 pieces per box, the total ln footage varies per length purchased. Price per foot from Grabber is around .35 per ft. Not sure what they charge to ship to the Great White North!
http://www.grabberman.com/ItemDetails.aspx?pkey=Taping+%26+Finishing+Product s|NO-COAT%C2%AE+Drywall+Corners|ULTRATRIM%E2%84%A2%7CNO-COAT%C2%AE+ULTRATRIM%E2%84%A2+OUTSIDE+90&pval=5|27 |92|SOC8&pIds=CategoryID|CategoryID|ProductTypeID| itemid&itemid=SOC8 |
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Drywall & Painting Pro
Trade: Hang, Finish, Texture, Paint, and Repair.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne Beach,Florida
Posts: 4,963
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Re: No-Coat, Or Paper Bead....that Is The Question.
Here's that Grabber link from Terryw's post.
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