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Old 11-15-2009, 11:58 PM   #81
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For me, the ONLY book that matters is the Code book. Obviously, in Canada the code allows you to glue, here in the States you can but only in conjunction with traditional fasteners and only with significantly more fasteners than the pro-adhesive advocates apparently use.

I can read and I have read the book(s).
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:52 AM   #82
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For me, the ONLY book that matters is the Code book.
I disagree with that statement. The code is the absolute minimum applicable standard. A true professional understands this and whenever feasible will try to exceed the code requirements.

One should also always be willing to try and improve the methods they use in order to provide a better end product and increase productivity. Reading about other methods used by various tradesman is a very inexpensive way to learn what works, what may not work, and what may be cost prohibitive.
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I disagree with that statement. The code is the absolute minimum applicable standard. A true professional understands this and whenever feasible will try to exceed the code requirements.

One should also always be willing to try and improve the methods they use in order to provide a better end product and increase productivity. Reading about other methods used by various tradesman is a very inexpensive way to learn what works, what may not work, and what may be cost prohibitive.
I agree with you 100% as to the Code being the minimum standard and that we should strive to exceed it whenever possible. My point here is that the adhesive methods AS DESCRIBED HERE don't even meet that minimum standard and until there is a code-approved adhesive method that allows for the extreme fastener spacing advocated in this thread, we have to follow the Code.
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Glue or not, when it comes time for the screw inspection down here, esp. on commercial work, one every other stud/joist/whatever will get you red tagged.

Give me my SuperDrive and a box of screws.
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[quote=Capt-Sheetrock;808680]Glue is way better???? in your opinion

Glue is faster??? yeah, in your mind your a legend
Don't know bout you, but i am in the drywall buss to make a living If you think that glue is faster, you have obviously never seen professional drywall hangers at work

Glue has no differance on finisher speed,,,( maybe 30 mins over 300 boards)


Glue is the next level????? Level of what, ,,,,perhaps, "how can I slow myself down, cost myself money, on something that absolutely nobody but other hangers give a rip about!!!!

Glue is faster....i have proven it, several times...I thought the same that glue was slower, but ....its not.
Glue on walls does increase the finishing speed...anyone can see that...
lets put it this way... on a 10' wall you will have lets say 28 screws to coat 3 times... on the same size wall but glue'd you have 2-4 max...do the math Keep in mind that this is only on one wall you still have to coat the rest of the walls in the house.

Glue has no differance on finisher speed,,,( maybe 30 mins over 300 boards)
you just admitted that glue is faster...30 min over 300 for a single coat. times that by 3 for 3 coats....let me see when i went to school that was 30+30+30= 90 min...of time saving....which = free money.


also do you still run corded guns, and keyhole out box's or have you evolved to cordless and rotozips?
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I agree with you 100% as to the Code being the minimum standard and that we should strive to exceed it whenever possible. My point here is that the adhesive methods AS DESCRIBED HERE don't even meet that minimum standard and until there is a code-approved adhesive method that allows for the extreme fastener spacing advocated in this thread, we have to follow the Code.


100% correct the code book is a min standard...and any good contractor of any sort will not go below the code.
Here in BC we do not have drywall inspection, sometimes i think that we should to get rid of the fly by nighters.....the inspectors here in pg, only enforse the codes min standard, and unfortunately some of them have no clue what they are talking about at the best of times. When this happens the enginere will over rule their desisions.
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According to IRC Table R702.3.5 drywall installed with adhesive must have a maximum fastener spacing of 12" to 16" on ceilings and 16" to 24" on walls depending on board orientation and fasteners used. This does not equate out to 2 to 4 fasteners per sheet max. Type X in garages beneath habitable rooms installed perpendicular to the framing (required) requires fastening 6" o.c.

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