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Fibafuse

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#1 ·
Heard some issues with fibafuse paperless tape cracking. Wondering if it's just application error and if anyone uses it or prefers to use it over paper?
 
#36 · (Edited)
it is itchy if you do it by hand..the fibers get everywere so if you dont use a bango or boloka :) you will not like it so much.
I like it in my inside corners ..It will dry faster then tape becouse the air can get to it
I also use it over mi outlets so I can box over them
and pops or a quick fix ...fideFUSE works great...On my butts i put one layer of fibamesh tape then fibafuse it..so far I like it.

photo 1 bad outlet and if was cut out I still would fiberfuse over it so i can box over it.
photo 2 tape coat (all fibafuse)
photo 3 3rd coat
 
#53 ·
icerock drywall said:
heres one ...he said can you fix this:blink:
so I did :eek: fibefuse it all :clap:
Say no and maybe he would stop doing that. Seriously looks like he cut those sheets with his boot. Its so much easier to do it right. Those sheets just look like they had a very hard time.
 
#73 ·
I know this is an old thread, but I find it funny to read people's reactions to this stuff. Yes, it's a relatively loose fiberglass MAT. Not mesh or weave. Have you ever seen products made of blown-in fiberglass and compressed with knives or rollers? That stuff is STRONG. (I've not only seen it in person, I've also seen it on half a dozen episodes of How It's Made.) This is basically the same thing in roll form. It just gives an internal structure to the mud.
 
#74 ·
Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N402QNZHFoU

Here the process is backward because they use a vacuum mold to create the top coat first. The plastic shell here is just like your wall's paint layer will be. Then they pop it out of the mold, flip it over, and use a special gun that chops up fiberglass threads (like fibafuse) and sprays it out with the resin (like your mud). Then they compress it, just like you do with your knife. It's the same process and it is VERY strong. (Obviously mud isn't as strong as resin, but it's plenty for your wall.)
 
#77 ·
Is that a serious question?? People were having trouble grasping that fibafuse is a strong product. So I shared an example of another way that a fiberglass mat is used, requiring much greater strength than a drywall joint or patch. Based on your previous posts and your youtube demonstrations I wouldn't have expected you to be thrown by a direct (not abstract) comparison.
 
#79 · (Edited)
Hi all - FibaFuse is able to reinforce joints by allowing the compound to flow in and around it, fusing with the compound rather than sitting on top of it.
I'd love to hear feedback, positive or negative - and if anyone is interested in a sample, please let me know.
Hello FiberFuse.

I have been watching this thread for a long time and it has intrigued me to try your product on a few occasions. I recently found out that a buddy of mine who runs a drywall business with a 8 man crew has been using it for quite a while on on new work. (about 13 months) His crew hangs and finishes about 70 units a year. We had quite a long discussion as to the differences between using FibaFuse on new work and on repairs. He and I came the the same conclusion that it is a great product for new work, and not so much for repairs. Neither of us know how it will hold up in the long term with building settling, wind buffering, or chemical reaction to the drywall compound itself.

The Pro's and Con's:

1. New work: Works very good in the flats. The tape can be buried during the taping coat with a extra swipe with compound using a stiff blade.

2. New work: Works very well with most any compound.

3. The FibaFuse is not as forgiving as mesh or paper tape when taping inside corners where the flats meet the corner. Any irregularities from studs, screws, or blowouts will cause the edges of the tape to vee outward showing traces of the tape edge coming though the compound. Paper tape will soften initially from the compound and makes it a little easier to work around poor hanging and other problems. Mesh tape will pretty much follow the surface it is pressed against providing it is still tacky. A novice would struggle using FibaFuse, because novices hang poorly.

4. Be carefull when angles/corners bedding if your knife has a sharp edge. FibaFuse will cut pretty easily. I round my knife edges over so I didn't personally have a problem.

5. While taping angles and drops, I found that I could not just snap cut the tape against my knife edge while working it into the corners. I ended up using scissors.

6. Fibafuse is better than paper tape when knifing into the very end of corners. It does not tend to slide. No fussing at all.

7. I personally do not recommend FibaFuse for any repair work over textured finishes. Trying to get the tape to lay down over knockdown or heavy grooved plaster is a pain. Mesh tape is more loosely woven and will follow small contours easily if it is tacky. FibaFuse tends to follow the spline of the tape which is too stiff. This means that it will require more compound to hide the repair. Mesh tape requires less compound due to it's flexability.

8. Works about the same from machining tools as paper.

9. I do not see FibaFuse creating a stronger joint than a paper tape used with USG green top. The shear strength of paper tape is pretty pretty darn good when it is used with green top considering the adhesives that USG puts into the product. I do see FibaFuse being a plus with all other drywall compounds because it gives the compound a chance to leach through the tape and cause a chemical interlock while it is drying. This has to be a positive.


V/R........ John
 
#83 ·
So you've never used it, but you have very specific recommendations about who should and shouldn't use it and when?? Fascinating. Particularly that your recommendation is against using it for repairs after Icerock beautifully demonstrated how perfectly suited it is for repairs.

FibaFuse - I filled out the sample form thing on the website a couple days ago, but the best opportunity for me to try it would be this weekend (my day job could also benefit, but this weekend I'm doing a full hang and tape job that I rarely get to do these days). Any idea how fast those samples go out? Are you able to expedite a sample for me? I checked everywhere in town and can't find anyone who stocks it, including those who normally stock Saint-Gobain products. Thanks.
 
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