Drywalling A Ceiling

fast pasquale

Well I just tore down the ceiling which was all lath and plaster. There is a crown molding still in place. The joists are 3/4 of an inch above the crown. What is my best method to put this celing up. Should I use 1/2inch furring strips on the joists then use 1/4 drywall? Thanks so much in advance. Only put one ceiling up before..

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Chris Frate
Pasquale Floors

Mud Master

There are other methods that would work but Yes, build it out with furring strips, and use 1/4" sheetrock. Make sure to use screws, not nails.

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1KingOfDrywall

I agree with the 1/4 board, my only objection is 1/4 has a "wavee" appearance sometimes. It will show off every bit of uneveness.
I might suggest hanging 2 layers of board which equall the space you are trying to fill. Obviously only finish/texture the external board......just use longer screws on the second LAYER of boards. I've done this once, it came out great......coulda just been luck......(maybe some skill)

Mud Master

I've done quite a few projects like that. I call em "glue and screw" jobs. They do work out real nice, except when I used to do them over 50 year old plaster that was beat up, complete with holes the size of my head. One time when I recommeded to use 2 layers in order to even out the walls and ceilings he refered to me as trying to "pad my bill". 2 months later when the new owners of this "beautifully" restored house refused to pay him his final draw due to the shotty work. **Ring Ring**. So I told him that if he wanted me to do it I would be charging $48.00/board instead of my usual $43.00/board, as I would have to put another job off to complete this job that I had already scheduled in my book 2 months ago..he politly obliged.

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Chris G

1/4" on this ceiling? Am I missing something here? It sounds like it's an old house. Old houses have uneven joists. I know 5/8" is heavy, but wouldn't it be best to minimize the wavy appearance with thicker sheets?

If your sold on the 1/4" then you should think about sistering the joists with metal studs to level out the sags, which will probably bring you down to the top of the crown.

fast pasquale

Some people are telling me that i should take the crown down and that 1/4 is too thin... bad insulating and sound barrier.. honestly it's a rental of mine and im trying to sell it. H depot carry 1/4 inch board??? What would you recommed for furring strips???

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Chris Frate
Pasquale Floors

fast pasquale

Wouldn't furring strips be easier/cheaper? Im not questioning your advice.. just trying to learn.. Thanks

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Chris G

Is the crown made of plaster?

thom

I'd go to Home Depot and buy a bunch of that great stuff foam. Just keep squirting it on the joists until the space is filled in. Even it out with some drywall mud. Saves money because you don't need to buy screws and you're getting insulation at the same time.

fast pasquale

no.. its wood.. i could take it down if i had to.. Would this save or add time to the project???

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damudman

Hang 5/8 then you can calk 1/8 gap

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dayspring

Chris G has the right idea. How far apart are your joist? 24" centers require 5/8" board IMO. 16" centers 1/2" overlayed with 1/4", glued and screwed maybe, but 1/4" on the ceiling alone? Not me, never.

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fast pasquale

Dayspring.....joists are 16 on center. So you think one layer of 1/2... THEN... screw/glue 1/4 ONTOP of the 1/2??.. why no 1/4furring strips.. then the 1/2??

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Chris Frate
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dayspring

Drywall is cheap, labor isn't. It would take just a few minutes to throw up the drywall verses ripping, nailing, etc your furring. The furring and 1/2" drywall would work with 16" centers. Either way would be fine in the end.

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paintr56

I would remove the crown, hang 5/8" drywall relace the crown walk away knowing it was done right. The other option would be hang 5/8" and caulk the crack. I can not see how ripping and installing 1/4" furring could be faster or cheaper. 1/2" followed by 1/4" would be more expencive and take longer. You will probably pay a premium for 1/4 " drywall I know I do because it is a specialty item.

Jim Bunton

theworx

Bingo... Quick, easy, and will give you the best result (cheaply)... 1/8" gap is nothing to caulk!!!

dayspring

After reading your response, I guess I'd have to agree. Plus if you texture, it will help with the difference.

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fast pasquale

Well I think im leaning toward the 5/8 rock, textured.. touch of caulk.. done.. Gonna try to do it without removing the crown first...Really appreciate all the advice.. HUGE help.. Im definately renting a drywall lift.. If there is anything else you think i should know .... please let me know..My biggest concern is getting the rock from the depot to the 2nd floor.. Thanks again everyone... Much appreciated!!

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Chris Frate
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fast pasquale

I'm with you damudman....Brought a "test" board over today....5/8... it's going to fit perfect!!...no furring... 1 sheet of rock...1/8 at the most to caulk.. Great advice... much appreciated!

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Chris Frate
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Mud Master

Yeah, 1 sheet of rock with caulk...why is it no one tells the whole story til AFTER I post a response. lol. Really doesn't help me make a qualified suggestion.

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