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crystal

Hi guys
In Romania, I am into building here in Romania, I am from Ireland, I have being offered a contract here in Bucharest the capital city of the country to do the drywall for some 550 apartments in a building and another 2 large shopping malls, the rate offered is €7 per metre + VAT including stud of the walls with metal, drywall is finish fully.
I see from your rates this is pretty bad, but this is the rate here, bear in mind a worker here gets €1,000 per month here max including taxes.

How much would a crew of 6-12 do in a day, these guys are new to the drywall system, the plaster board is 8X4 (2.6 X 1.4 approx metres).

Any help, I am completely new to the drywall system, but been giving lots of work from companies here.

Tony M

If they are new to drywall then there are going to be a lot of mistakes made which will cost YOU money. Try and find workers with some experience of the systems specified. I worked in germany in the mid nineties and there were plenty of Polish and workers from other Eastern european countries doing drywall then. I'm sure you will find some good people if you try hard enough. It's ok being offered the work, but if you don't have the guys to do it you could lose serious money.

crystal

I have 2 romanian guys that worked in italy at drywall and will be watching over the new guys, Will I make a few bob from this or should i pass on this work to someone else, i am always looking to get into other contract work and was offered this drywall job and it is quite a size of a contract. yes i could loss money, but I'm a worker and will push to get output a best i can from the workers,
what ye think of the rates

TooledUp

Okay, that works out at about $29.50 a sheet.

I'm from the UK so can't really give you any idea what the guys in the USA are taking. It all depends on if you're supplying the materials, how much they cost over there and how fast your guys can throw the stuff up.

What I do know is that you could hardly buy the material for that over here...

I just noticed you said fully finished - Presuming that's all taped up etc? If so, I would forget it - Metal studding aint cheap either...

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crystal

no just labour, not supplying anthing only the workers and tools, I will be in the construction site tomorrow and will ask again to make sure I have the correct price from the construction company.

crystal

yes all taped up to answer your question

TooledUp

Going by the labour rates then that price sounds okay to me. Just bear in mind that metal studding takes longer to fix than wood. You should also check if they want the ceilings double sheeted (fire regulations). If they do then I would try and squeeze some more money out of them if you can

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Tony M

That's a different story then. That equates to £5.60 per metre to board and tape. I'd work for that on a labour only basis. A good taper will do 500+ metres a week, and a boarder should be able to put away 20-30 boards (60-90 mtrs) on domestic work.

The crap drylining firms are paying around the £2.00 per metre mark to tape and joint at the moment, which includes you supplying the materials. They are also paying anywhere from £1.60 per metre to board.

TooledUp

Ouch! I charge between £3.25 and £3.50 a metre. More if it's a small job. I got £250 for a 7 x 6 metre ceiling just last week (3.2 metres high). I also add on the same cost linear metre for metal edge tape as the cost of the square metre

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crystal

i will see about the double layer on the ceilings double sheeted or not, it is a very good point you made, have done plaster on the ceilings before over here, it is probley different for drywall. you said good taper will do 500+ metres a week, and a boarder should be able to put away 20-30 boards (60-90 mtrs) on domestic work.
20-30 boards per day you mean, thats 8X4 sheets?

the rate again is for metal studding, boards and taping full finish

Tony M

I don't work for them. I was just teling crystal what some thieving firms are paying.
I charge about the same as you. I'd rather stay home than work for ****all.

Tony M

Yes mate.

crystal

so anymore help guys, what would the out put be in a week for example

BattleRidge

8 x 4 for that many apartments? I would say that you have a big job and your going to eat crap if you don't hang. First off a good cutter and hang should put up 80+ a day in a usual apartment setting. With your esxperience and your workers you can expect 20 sheets from 2 man teams/ then it also won't be as tight so taping will be slow. If your starving take it. If not I would find someone else that can work with you for a little lower price so you can profit off managing it instead of just donig the work. you looking at like over a million in labor alone. How did you get this? If you want help, Ill send ya my boys to show you how its done! thats alot of work.

DSavo

Hey Crystal, quick question. How were you able to get the job in Romania. I'm in Canada and wouldnt mind working in Europe.

Ady

Hey mate just came across this website and your post while I was cruising the internet .
My name is Ady I live in Romania but worked for 6 years in UK as a dryliner(drylining manager) maybe I can be of some help maybe we can team up,this may be an opurtunity for both of us get in touch with me at ady27@msn.com or 0744599803 romanian number.I can as soon as you call me to Bucharest.
All the best

Dan_Watson

Whats drylining?

Dan_Watson

And cost of living comes into play, no I wouldnt do it where I live becuase I cant survive off that wage. But I am in New Jersey, unless the person giving you information is in your area, they are not of much help...Atleast thats how I feel.

coppa23

watch out ,that is east europe !!!
I seen pro guys drywall,tapers, painters etc they whent to rusia and they get f_ck up big time !!!!
sometimes contract, piece of paper doesn't do lot
if I'm on your place I will ask weekly paycheck or top 2 weeks !!!
keep us posted
gluck

Adv.wall.tech

hELLO Crystal.

i know it's a little late, but how can i get in touch with you ?
i'm from romania and have 2 years experience in the drywall business in the USA plus 2 more here in Romania.
We might even know each other , i did work for 6 months on the Tiago Shopping Mall in Oradea. Give me a buzz maybe we'll work something out .
adv.wall.tech@gmail.com 0040755022672
cheers mate.