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Old 10-21-2017, 06:10 AM   #41
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no offense man, but really? You have a good 40 years of work in front of you, and these days it's rare for anyone to keep doing the same thing for anywhere near that long.

At your age, i was a machinist. Spent a couple of years as a mainframe computer programmer after that (took classes for it), then the better part of three decades as an electronics tech (took lots of classes for that), doing tv repair, two-way radio, fax machines and other stuff. I started at the bottom in remodeling/construction at age 54, worked for a gc for about five years and then went on my own.

Now i'm 67 and trying to be semi-retired. It ain't working. Old clients and new referrals keep calling, and i just don't seem to be able to say no.

No, i've never hit a six-figure income, nor have i particularly wanted to. But i'm comfortable, and i haven't stopped learning. Heck, i still don't know what i want to do for a living.
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Old 10-21-2017, 06:11 AM   #42
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If you want to eventually be your own boss, I would have to say with my experience in many different trades. I would never wanted to make a career out of any of them working for somebody else.
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Out here on the military tracks the guys really get it wired.
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Out here on the military tracks the guys really get it wired.
https://youtu.be/vx7MiAsDrZY
That's fun to watch. First I've seen guys run coil cords off their belts like that. Pretty cool. I wonder how well those screws were getting set...lol
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That's fun to watch. First I've seen guys run coil cords off their belts like that. Pretty cool. I wonder how well those screws were getting set...lol
That's on Kaneohe marine corp base . They keep the reamer right on their side too.
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I guess I just have it in my head that I'm late to the game starting an apprenticeship at 24. Sometimes I wish I could see into the future 5 years and see what happens with each decision haha.

My mind isn't completely made up yet, your points make a lot of logical sense, it's exactly what I'd do for sure if I was still 18. Finish the 4 year apprenticeship then work on becoming a talented taper. At the end of the day I just want to be able to look at my life and be proud of what I achieved, growing up with a very hard family kind of threw me through a loop of lack of confidence and self respect and I'm on my own journey to build it back up for myself.
Its crazy to me that you guys have a four year apprenticeship to learn how to hang drywall.

My thoughts, your body is gonna hurt real bad in due time with hanging as a career choice. There are a few who can hold up to it, but most can not. You have to look at your build and answer that for yourself.

Mystery breeds margin. Meaning the more mysterious a trade is to people the more you can charge/get paid for it. IMO, not much mystery to hanging.

My demographic is probably different than you. Around here ALL the hangers are hispanic. Most are here illegally. They work for extremely low wages. Makes it nearly impossible to compete, which is why they pretty much have the hanging and finishing market cornered around here.

On the flip side of the coin, if you learned the craft, started your own business, and learned to manage employees that could be a potentially decent living.

I'm a self employed 29 year old trim carpentry sub. If a friend of mine asked me your original question I'd say NO. RUN.

Also worth mentioning, choose a trade that can easily roll into other careers. If you spend 5 years doing it, and decide you don't like it, you don't want to be back at square one.
When you say hangers what exactly are you referring to? Because the trade I'm in does all the ceiling, insulating, layouts, steel studs etc. Are the people you're referring to, literally just hanging drywall and that's it?

Ahh... don't know what to think.
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;(. Just want to hit that 6 figure holy grail one day. Who do I have to sell my soul to?

Funny thing is I graduated for welding but never found work for it. Seems like the entry work pays even less to the point of why would you do that work instead of working at Mcdonalds. Really fun and engaging trade though!


Guy that works for me occasionally when he is out of work (between jobs) made 110k last year working as a union laborer for bricklayers.

I know that welding can be decent money if you have your own set up but welding shops donít pay all that well. Unless of coarse if you work as an iron worker then you make decent money welding


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When you say hangers what exactly are you referring to? Because the trade I'm in does all the ceiling, insulating, layouts, steel studs etc. Are the people you're referring to, literally just hanging drywall and that's it?

Ahh... don't know what to think.
Yes, down here drywall hangers only hang drywall. Some guys might do side work like insulation or concrete.
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When you say hangers what exactly are you referring to? Because the trade I'm in does all the ceiling, insulating, layouts, steel studs etc. Are the people you're referring to, literally just hanging drywall and that's it?

Ahh... don't know what to think.
Yes, down here drywall hangers only hang drywall. Some guys might do side work like insulation or concrete.
Ahh, maybe its a little different here in Canada. The journeymen for interior systems mechanic seem like theyre basically carpenters for the whole inside of the building once the structural steel is up. We do exterior once in awhile too though. 31$ an hour isn't too bad of a living where I live but I feel like I won't be satisfied with that later in life. I guess you eventually have to decide if you want to risk it and go off on your own at that point huh.
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Ahh, maybe its a little different here in Canada. The journeymen for interior systems mechanic seem like theyre basically carpenters for the whole inside of the building once the structural steel is up. We do exterior once in awhile too though. 31$ an hour isn't too bad of a living where I live but I feel like I won't be satisfied with that later in life. I guess you eventually have to decide if you want to risk it and go off on your own at that point huh.
You should look up crystalline silicosis if you havent already studied it.

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Ahh, maybe its a little different here in Canada. The journeymen for interior systems mechanic seem like theyre basically carpenters for the whole inside of the building once the structural steel is up. We do exterior once in awhile too though. 31$ an hour isn't too bad of a living where I live but I feel like I won't be satisfied with that later in life. I guess you eventually have to decide if you want to risk it and go off on your own at that point huh.
You should look up crystalline silicosis if you havent already studied it.

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of course it is. But anything can only be a good career if you enjoy it enough to stick around long enough to become a veteran
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Our friends to the north have a different idea about construction education. Down here you don't need a red card to hang drywall. Your suppose to have a green card! Not sure everybody does... That type of competition, helps hold the wages down. It's a young mans game! and if I had to do it every day,.... I'd eat a bullet! All the tappers use box tools and bazookas. Shorter learning curve. I think it a two day apprenticeship. Bi-lingual is a big + starts at 10 bucks an hour, under the table. I was self employed for over 35 years. I don't think I picked the job, as much as it picked me! I started in the union in the early 70s, for the MONEY! and stayed not because I loved it, but because it was the job I hated the least. My advice, would be to get a state job!
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Here neither, there was a time some years back a drywall contractor advertised $0.70 @ sq ft...finished....I'm hoping for his sake that did not include material....even still less than a dollar a sq ft? There's way easier ways to make money.

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All the tappers use box tools and bazookas. Shorter learning curve. I think it a two day apprenticeship.


I would NOT like to be the painter following you after you got your drywall training!!!

kimchi... If you think you want to be a drywaller.... get your carpenter ticket first (once you have that its there for life) then go get a job with a drywall company and do it all, insulation, boarding, taping and ceiling finishes. Then you can decide if it is for you!!

I started drywalling when I was 16 working on a crew that I got a percentage of the profit. We always worked piece work so you learn to be efficient and do it right the first time so very few call backs, which we did not get paid for if they were from our ineptness. I started my own company when I was 25 and made a very good living for the next 20 years until my body said "No more!!" although I still love the work.

So the way I see it.... do what you enjoy!! There is more to life than making money as long as you are making a living.
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Guy that works for me occasionally when he is out of work (between jobs) made 110k last year working as a union laborer for bricklayers.

I know that welding can be decent money if you have your own set up but welding shops donít pay all that well. Unless of coarse if you work as an iron worker then you make decent money welding


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