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Old 05-10-2008, 06:45 AM   #1
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I am a contractor in the north east area (cleveland) .I try not to sub out too much due to a downed market But when I do sub say like drywall finishing I get 3 or 4 bids and they are all over the map. I have seen the work from the cheapest guy to the most expensvive ,good work either way
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Old 05-10-2008, 06:58 AM   #2
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I suppose some people are more desperate for the work than others. No matter how low you go, you will always find somebody willing to undercut. Some go low just to keep guys in a job. Others might do it low and hit you with a heap of extras.

I'm sure you'll find it with all trades, not just finishing. My advice (fwiw) would be to find a good, trustworthy, reliable sub contractor who isn't doing the work for peanuts but not trying to rip you off and stick with them for all the work that you sub out.
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I'm just north of Akron. At times I have undercut to stay busy. I price jobs accordingly though. Give me a line. Maybe we can work something out.
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are those cheapest guys legal citizens?? they most likely have crews that are illegal and they are killing the trade..MAke sure for the integrity of the trade to make sure they are all legal..cheapest is not always the best..
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listen i don't think being an illegal alien in the trade should matter as long as the work is good i hire illegals all the time there work is good and if the legal guy is to lazy to work and always late comming to the job then so be it as long as they want to work then i will hire them
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like i always say times have change, evolve or move over because there is always some one right behind you ready to move foreward.
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listen i don't think being an illegal alien in the trade should matter as long as the work is good i hire illegals all the time there work is good and if the legal guy is to lazy to work and always late comming to the job then so be it as long as they want to work then i will hire them

sorry to bring up an old post. your probly not even around anymore but if you are i just want to tell you, your a piece of ****!
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CSR I geuss you don't understand the whole term "Illegal Alien". If you knowingly hire Illegals then you are not legal yourself. You have a valid point about hiring hard working people that show up on time. But I would bet the farm low wages has more to do with it, especially in this economy.
If you need hard working people that show up on time then help your employees become legal, or would they demand better wages then????
Why don't you post your real name and contact info? I will get you all the legal hard working employees you need!

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Yeah, cuz illegals are the only ones that actually want to work . Your a jackass, and I hope to God you get caught red handed being a jackass. I think I'll try to contact your ROC, I hope you were dumb enough to list where your actually from.
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listen i don't think being an illegal alien in the trade should matter as long as the work is good i hire illegals all the time there work is good and if the legal guy is to lazy to work and always late comming to the job then so be it as long as they want to work then i will hire them
and thanks to pieces of **** like you i go from making an "ok" wage to makeing HALF of what I was before. and dont forget 90% of the money your illegals are making are leaving america to go to mexico for their families and thats part of the reason why our economy is the way it is right now, retard.
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and thanks to pieces of **** like you i go from making an "ok" wage to makeing HALF of what I was before. and dont forget 90% of the money your illegals are making are leaving america to go to mexico for their families and thats part of the reason why our economy is the way it is right now, retard.


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listen i don't think being an illegal alien in the trade should matter as long as the work is good i hire illegals all the time there work is good and if the legal guy is to lazy to work and always late comming to the job then so be it as long as they want to work then i will hire them
I hope this MoFo DIES with a big mouthfull of "Illegal" Mexican Piss for all his endeavors. Stupid @ss Mother****erz, Your exactally what is wrong with the situation these days. Choke Beeotch.
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One local company charges $25 a sheet to hang rock with the price dropping for higher quantities. I have seen taper rates drop from $25 an hour to $20 an hour recently. Both companies are 100% US citizens...
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listen i don't think being an illegal alien in the trade should matter as long as the work is good i hire illegals all the time there work is good and if the legal guy is to lazy to work and always late comming to the job then so be it as long as they want to work then i will hire them
I hope you gte caught hiring the illegal workers.

Do you pay them in cash?

Do you carry WC on them?
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One local company charges $25 a sheet to hang rock with the price dropping for higher quantities. I have seen taper rates drop from $25 an hour to $20 an hour recently. Both companies are 100% US citizens...
$25 a sheet, just to hang?

I can see that on smaller jobs (very small) but if that is the going rate, I may start hanging rock again.
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I heard to hang is going for $6.50 a sheet Maybe the illegals are the ones charging this price. a few months back I read it was $16.50 a sheet, I also read that Americans need to get use to the fact that wages will be falling for years. Auto Industry is going to see their pay with benefits go from $65.00 an hour down to $25.00 an hour. Say good bye to the Middle Class


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One local company charges $25 a sheet to hang rock with the price dropping for higher quantities. I have seen taper rates drop from $25 an hour to $20 an hour recently. Both companies are 100% US citizens...

$25/board labor only? that isn't so bad. That's what I charge just to install. If it's furnish & install thats low, should be in the $30-$32/board range for standard jobs up to 12'.

I charge $52.00/board to furnish, hang, finish, sand & point up. That's just standard installation, shaft walls, GRG/GFRG, fire wall tenant partition, etc get into the $70-$75/board range. I don't see much of that in residential. One of my good friends is a PM for a large residential drywall company, and he said he is competing against $28.00/board complete drywall turnkey in the few developments going up .

Says the piece workers are getting $4-$5 dollars a board to hang and/or finish, and that's just crazy. Sh*t 15 years ago I was getting $7 & $7 to hang and finish piece work on the side. It's all pathetic.

I couldn't pay for the toilet to flush with those rates. He also says the more drywall they install, the lower the price. F**k that!!
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and thanks to pieces of **** like you i go from making an "ok" wage to makeing HALF of what I was before. and dont forget 90% of the money your illegals are making are leaving america to go to mexico for their families and thats part of the reason why our economy is the way it is right now, retard.

Amen brother.

I can't wait for the illegals to start building houses around here & listen to the American builders cry about them cutting prices.
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I heard to hungis going for $6.50 a sheet Maybe the illegals are the ones charging this price. a few months back I read it was $16.50 a sheet, I also read that Americans need to get use to the fact that wages will be falling for years. Auto Industry is going to see their pay with benefits go from $65.00 an hour down to $25.00 an hour. Say good bye to the Middle Class


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I get that wages will drop, but factory workers never should have been getting $65 an hour, thats retarded. And GM wonders why they just can't make money. People that are employees just shouldn't be making what buisness owners make. If I could have been making $65 an hour I might not have just spent $10k getting legal and buying tools just to sit on my ass.
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$25 a sheet, just to hang?

I can see that on smaller jobs (very small) but if that is the going rate, I may start hanging rock again.
Hanging does include the price of the drywall...
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I get that wages will drop, but factory workers never should have been getting $65 an hour, thats retarded. And GM wonders why they just can't make money. People that are employees just shouldn't be making what buisness owners make. If I could have been making $65 an hour I might not have just spent $10k getting legal and buying tools just to sit on my ass.
I left Chrysler 2 years ago. $65.00 an hour is not what they are paid that is the cost figured in with insurance, paying the retired and all other expenses fig. in. Pay is about $30.00 an hour. I am not saying that wages don't need to come down some. But I worked for chrysler for 9 years. And working in a factory is a totally differnt animal. I was low senority the whole time I worked there and did the hardest jobs they had and trust me alot of those guy's work alot harder than you think. I will agree there are some easy jobs there held by higher senority ( trust me they paid their dues) but working there is not all it is cracked up to be. I took a buyout went back to what I loved doing and will never look back. If you really think $65,000 a year is a lot of money then they are being over payed but that is about the average gross a year for a chrysler worker
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