Crappy Drywall Job...

Al Taper

I just got this new client.I was called to finish the sheetrock he and his guys installed.I told him i have a guy that hangs for me.So if there is any other jobs i can do both.I saw the next job yesterday.He said that he had to sheetrock some of it.But the rest iam going to rock.But the stuff he did is.Crap.Extras seems,2 butt seems a foot from the corner and 10 high from floor to ceiling.You guys know its 20 boards cut into 40 peices.When i charge extra for every little thing i think i get over priced,but time is money.
What do you guys do?

HallisseyDesign

Can you get a picture of it? I want to see how many seems are in it for you!

AtlanticWBConst

This is a new client, like you said. Explain the situation to him without sounding too condescending. Tell him that you usually get more for hangs like that. Tell him how much more for something like that.. Then see what he says.
If he whines, let it go and tell him you'll let this one will slide (if he has more work for you).
Then tell him that you prefer to hang your own sheetrock, and that allows you to better warranty all your work.
We personally will not warranty drywall, if we tape it, but did not hang it.

If he does the same thing again, then charge him for it...he's already been notofied.

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Al Taper

Thx for the reply,AtlanticWBConst
The way i bid is i have a set price per board,Then go from there.The crappier the hang job the more the price.(goes with out saying)I was thinking that i would charge like $5.00 for every extra butt .And $15.00 for the floor to ceiling butt.(it will take 1 1/2 to 2 buckets to hide it. What do you guys think?
Its not easy to put a shine on a turd.

Al Taper

Here is the pictures of the job I was posting about.




The wall is about 14' long and 8' to 10 ' high.Just all extra butts. There is a wall with a bay window in it.There should be 4 seems, There is 7.But they always want the best price. They think they saved money when they rock it themselfs.

Bummie

WOW.... did they have a bunch of pieces left over from another job?!?!?! They didn't actually cut up new board to get that mosaic look did they????

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Beaver

Wow Wee thats downright nasty.I'd walk in and walk out and say no thank you!!! Those are the boarding jos that make a finisher look bad.

Tmrrptr

What fun pics! It's not the worst I've seen....

Question... Is it hung tite?

All depends if you NEED the work, or not...

Advise the owner it will cost xx% more because not pro-hung, and work up a price for him. And, of course there is no warranty.
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blackdoggie

Wow talk about patch work... were they rocking a wall or trying to make a blanket?

Celtic

GUILTY as charged I am.

I rocked a bedroom here at my house. Time was tight, so I called a taper....$1000 he says.

Yup.
I had to tape that mess.


Next room will be $300 to rock, $300 to tape - and I supply the rock/mud....only because it's leftover from the first abortion.

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nywoodwizard

Looks awful,may need a large snow shovel to feather in those seams

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KentWhitten

Gotta love the outlets sticking out of the boxes. That says no right there.

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Celtic

hmmm...what do you plan on plugging your light and/or radio into? Thin air?

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KentWhitten

an extension cord from the next room over??

the way they are in that picture means to me that the plugs were there before they started hanging which would make it difficult to rotozip out those boxes, thus making the finishers job that much harder.

besides, tapers don't need lights and radios

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Celtic

Maybe this is that next room over?


You can't have it both ways...rotozip AND a plug ...OR....keyhole saw AND no plug.
At some point, the ships will collide when you use power


I always see them inspecting the walls with a light and their nose pressed to the wall ....the radio, we can do w/o certain stations/formats.

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Al Taper

Now i gave him a price to hang and finish.But he calls me about 1 month later with this mess and say he had to rock it himself.I told him 10' boards he used 8'ers.Work is work.The problem is i always get call for jobs like these.And my price is always in the middle of two other guys.One guy so high he must have been high. And the other so low it crazy.But i have it down to a system.Plus it take extra time,mud = extras $. I will take a few more pix in the next room.

Patrick

Dont forget the microwave so they can heat up the sloppy joes

Heritage

You instinctively know when a HO calls you and says they already hung and they "just need someone to mud"...that you're going to have issues. I have personally never responded to that kind of a call and not discovered a major hack job. The pic you posted is, imo and experience, an average calibre "DIY" hang job.

I jack up my price so high on jobs like these that I'm almost guaranteed to never get the job. IF I get it, I get it. And if I don't (I never have), then so what? I can't work with a HO that has absolutely no concept of right/wrong. Lol, the last guy I did this to wrote me a page long angry email, "Your price was by far the highest (6k over the next closest guy)..blah blah blah. I responded...You get what you pay for...best of luck

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Al Taper

This is not a HO.This is a contractors work. TRUST me if it was a HO I would have Priced it high. But it a new client. This is my 2nd job with him. Priced out my next job off a print today. This time iam going to get my rocker to hang it.

Brockster

It looks like a framer hung that mess and of course they think they did a great job! Time is money so double your normal bid for the job.

Most times when I encounter a HO hang job I just say I'll get back to them with a price. If they call back two times I know they will pay the price for their mess...

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