Coating Boxes..

Al Taper

Hello All..

Iam planning to buying a set of coating boxes. I have rented from ames. The only boxes i have use were power asst. Is it much harder to get use to the others?(not power asst.)I was looking at the Columbia set.I like the Fat Boys.
Thanks

drywallet

I just bought a full set of Drywall Master from all wall. The boxes are pretty identical to the ames and tape tech only silver in color. I don't think you need the power assit unless your on stilts trying to run the flats. The bigger boxes may be nice, don't know never tried them. I just make more mud to keep going, usually 5 or 6 buckets at a time and full throttle!

Al Taper

Why?

Al Taper

When useing the angle finisher for the last coat on angles. Is there a better way to aply the mud to the angle if the box is not working right? I have use a paint brush. Any other ideas?

drywallet

Thin the mud a little more. Is the box broke? Or buy the Mud Runner. I want one but it's about a grand

MOWORK LLC

I just bought it all from a guy on ebay, bazooka and all the mud boxes..conrner box, 10 and 12 and now a 7 box, pump, rollers glazers .I love them...I bought columbia, can't tell you the compare, because I only have used this set. finish boxes RULE !!!! If you want to finish drywall, you need this equipment. You can finish a job before it finishes you. MOWOK llc I have around 2400 in it, but this job i am doing wil pay for 1/2 now

MOWORK LLC

You know on my box it was the same, had to push the hell out of it to make mud run, my co-worker figured it out, but you have to get on scaffold to do the upper corners, just pinch the box with you hand instead of used the force from the handle, its really not bad I use the handle to steady the box and squeeze it with my other hand, then I blade it light. MOWORK

Davey

HI Al-

We bought a complete set of Columbia tools from All-Wall(allwall.com) They are amazing and the fat boy boxes are very nice. We have 8,10 and 12. 2 corner finishers and two pumps etc, etc. great tools.
The corner finishing boxes take a bit of practice. You have to apply enough pressure as you place it in the upper corner to get the mud flowing and only then start your stroke down to knee height and then the same back up from the floor to knee height. If the mud is to thick you will have aching arms at the end of the day. Try a bit of machine oil on the rubber gasket every day before you start working to get the diaphragm nice and slippery and then give it another shot at noon if the box is sitting for a while.

Al Taper

I saw the tools you bought on ebay.Congrads on the new tool set.
Is it hard to push the mud out?

Al Taper

Does anyone run hotmud(easysand) in the boxes?
If so how do you get the dryed mud off the tools?

kgphoto

Don't let the mud get hard. I know I know.

When it happens, open and scrap out with knife and then use a high powered nozzle on a garden hose. Scrub brush and patience.

I use only 40 minute mud or higher when I use it in tools.

giffrod

I always presand my angles the dust acts like a lubricant. Thin your mud down a little more and check the angle head. It may need some lube. lube the rubber gasket a little, it'll run a lot nicer. I more thing when I have deeply recessed board which is more often than not I run the 3" head to fill in the recess to avoid call backs. Hope I"ve helped.

Al Taper

I found this site it has good prices in tools.

http://www.masondrywallsupply.com/

Has anyone used them?
Besides Allwall is there any other?
Does the beadboxers work as good as they say?

taper71

I have the bead boxers and the only place I will use them is on over head ceiling bead that is getting textured.- and only if they are long runs. I personally dont like them. Far to messy because I use thinner mud in my boxes and I like using thick mud on my bead. Also you still have to take a knife or trowel to them to get a nice corner and finish.

kgphoto

Al,

Check out Warehouse Bay.com

Al Taper

When i have use the boxes i would always wipe behind. Is that what most do? I think it makes a better finish.But iam sure thats not the right way.

taper71

I always wipe behind the boxes as well. I find it gives a better finish and takes out any pin holes.

Drywalller

I found this site it has good prices in tools.

http://www.masondrywallsupply.com/

Has anyone used them?

Mason drywall is a good place to buy anything,I bought all my auto tools from him,Real nice guy,Very helpful.

I once was looking for a 12" curved trowel and I asked him to just look down the curve of the trowel and not to send me one with too much of a curve and he ended up sending me 6 different trowels for me to pick from and also sent me prepaid postage to send the ones I didnt want back.

MOWORK LLC

well 4 jobs later, the corner boxes work well, I can never go back to pan and knife now..... the corners need to be 90 degrees or close, that what's I found,
if they are way out the glazers doesn't leave mud right. I use spray silicon on the gaskets wich helps and the joint mud has to be right thicknes.

MOWORK LLC

I don' wipe the crowns, I do three coats 8" 10" 12" I mix my mud with a good mixer to remove air. I reduce the numer by one on each coat...strat with 3 then go 4 then 5 amd on butts 1, 3, 4