Caulk The Corners?

CINEMASUPER

Only a hack would leave work like that.IMHO

Frankawitz

Well they must figure since commerical buildings are always changing why waste the time tapen and mud just slap caulk on it then stand back and say "Looks go from my house!" when it comes to commercial work you can get away with cutin corners, cause there aint no one living there to see all the crap

Rockhound

Alot of prefabs and no-frills builders do this. Yes its quicker. Yes it looks better than nice clean sharp corners....if you are drunk or leave the lights off. The outfits that prefer this also love doing things like dropping in ugly bulkheads for heat returns that the inspector found were never put into the plans, wedging a toilet between the crappy tub and a closet sized perfectly for a folded washcloth, and having doors hinged to hit the landing thats too close to the front wall.

wmallock

just plain lazy and wrong and will bite you in the ass

CCCo.

I definetly would say that it isn't the proper method, but I can see some instances where it may work or be a viable option, such as;
I have done it personally in really tight closets that you just can't hardly get into them period to hang, let alone get your knive in there to tape and mud it correctly.

I also think in a commercial application that most walls aren't load bearing at all, so IMO this method would be more suitable against stress cracks and/ or settling.
I would never do it in a residential situation, or a commercial wood frame structure, because there will definetly be problems, and warranty call back issues.
Just because its "FAST" doesn't make it right, or make it the most cost effective method. If your called back to repair it later, you didn't save a penny with the "FAST" approach.

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stp57

Sheesh! How many tubes did that guy use? Maybe he should have shoved foam caulk saver in there first?
Steve

CCCo.

You mean "backer rod"

Never heard it called caulk saver, thats funny.


The things people will do to save money.

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Anti-wingnut

We do it sometimes in commercial work, but when we do, we put a piece of L-metal corner on the new wall, and leave a slight gap against the old. It certainly doesn't save any time, but gives a good product against movements

Plaster Guy

If it doesn't save time why not do it the right way? Doesn't sound like a very good 'short-cut'.

(I'll grant you that it'll probably hold up fairly well with the L-metal though.)

boman47k

Only if he has no 3/4" caulk.

Bummie

Sounds like a hack!!!

I like the idea of using it on the flats but filling the bevel .... and making it look good .... would be a real test!!!! LOL

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Anti-wingnut

Like I said, it doesn't save time, and possibly costs more. As such, it is not a short-cut, and is done solely to give a better product under some very specific conditions.

One location could be where a partition wall abuts a curtain wall at a 90* angle. Sometimes the wind loading will crack any tape joint, and the caulk/corner bead combo gives a product which resists cracking better than other products.

Similarly, at times a new wall may join an extensive existing wall. If the tape is ran onto the existing wall, the entire old wall may be needed to be painted. This wall could be up to 100' long, with many high-tech work stations along the way. Using the caulk method will allow the painting to end at the new wall, and the existing need not be painted. Using this rather unconventional method allows the customer to save money, to not interrupt work operations, and to receive a product of high quality. You may disagree with it, but in commercial work other variables come into the decision making process that are not factors in taping up a new bedroom.

Anti-wingnut

When you're working on the 40th floor of a 50 storey building downtown, with the suits and high-brow architects and designers, you'll realize just how stupid a statement that is. This kind of stuff is renting for $50.00/ sq ft per year. Not like the high skill required to finish off a kiddie room.

stp57

Thanks, I couldn't remember what it was called? It does save caulk, but it still doesn't make it right to use caulk in the corner.
Steve

Frankawitz

Boy anti-wingnut I guess you don't look around your commerical building to much, cause if you read the posts there are a lot of guys who know this is going on yet a Super hasn't seen it. Yeah maybe you should look closer to your buildings, I bet your from New York paying that kind of money per sqft You couldn't pay to live there.

AARC Drywall

that would never fly around here...we would be laughed out of town. if its for commercial that is different. the walls are ment to be temporary. therefore they can be taken appart easily.

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Big Shoe

What are all you guys crying about.... whats wrong with caulking an ''occasional'' joint on remodels or repairs.If you need to be done today and the painters are comming tommorrow. I frame it strong ,hang it tight, flat tape if needed and then caulk it. Works for me and never had any problems. Also this system only works when new wall is tied into an existing wall.

All new(board) walls and ceilings always gets angle taped for sure!

Norrrrrrrrrrrrm

I have seen inside corners taped and mudded then the final is a bead of caulk to fill any imperfections. The one thing I did notice was the paint was shinier in the corner. Anyone see the shiny corner as well?

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jeremy-lvhm

I see it alot it commercial applications but admit I am seeing it more and more in residential where it shouldn't be done. My mother bought a flipped house a few years ago where they did that EVERYWHERE. On top of that they sheetrocked over all the old stuff. Caulked corners, around door trim, at the baseboard. EVERYWHERE. I'm actually surprised they didn't duct tape the center joints too.

It sucks because they never caught it when buying the place and I never got a chance to see it before they decided otherwise I would have stopped them. It was harder to notice when everything was fresh and new. A few years later it sticks out like a sore dk.

kai4791

I always run a bead of caulk around all my corners after the primer but before putting a finish coat of paint on. I use Phenoseal, which I feel is by far the greatest caulk out there, to give a nice inside corner.