Boxing Butts

Brockster

Does anybody else finish coat their butts and let dry before finish coating seams to eliminate having to cross-off your butts? If you haven't tried it you might want to once. My 2cents for the day.

Anybody else want to add a trick they have learned over the years?

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Tim0282

When doing butts, do you run a ten down each side, then when dry run a twelve down the middle or back down both sides again?
We had a nursing home where we had a lot of light at end of walls, so we ran four boxes wide on each butt. Two wide on each side, then hit them three times on the alternating. Makes a forty plus wide butt, and flat.

Tim0282

Do you use Tape Tech tools?
Do you follow your boxes with a knife?

Brockster

Say if the hollow side is on the left then I box down that side of the tape, maybe 1/2" past (onto the next sheet) so I cover the tape. Then I'll box to the left of that as close as I can get, then on the other side of the butt one time. So two on the hollow side and once on the other side.
On final coat just reverse it.
I'll take pictures next time I box as I'm sure it's hard to imagine without seeing it with my explanation.

I've seen butts boxed several different ways and by no means am I saying my way is better than any other way but no matter which way you do it if you finish your butts first than when they are dry you box the seams than you save crossing off and get a great, low sand finish.

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Brockster

Do you use Tape Tech tools? yes Do you follow your boxes with a knife? No, just keep my box adjusted and learned to do a clean job. Most of the time it takes me two+ strokes on butts for me to get it right without bubbles because box is on zero or one.

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CrazyTaper

We usually box butts with the 7" straight, bust them out with a 10" , then out again with a 12" by hand. We touch up with 90 to hit any bubbles.

CrazyTaper

HOLy SHIMOLY-THAT'S A BIG BUTT

Tim0282

I understand what you're saying on method of boxing your butts. So you are saying, also that your box man pays attention to the way the butt looks before he boxes it. Wow, that's a novel idea... thinking. Sorry, I vented for a second there.
Your method does sound good. Always good to hear how another does it. I will try the butts first, then the flats. Now do you run your angles after flats so you don't have to cut flat into angle? That makes sense like the butt, although we don't do it that way for some reason. Old habits.

Tim0282

Yepper and a flat one at that..

CrazyTaper

It's true-you really do need to bust them out that big or you can literally jump your bike over them.

Tim0282

That was the first time I felt like I needed to go that wide, just had a window ten feet down the wall from every one of them. Light can be a killer at times. My butts look much better in the dark all the time...

Brockster

Tim, I do angles after the flats then the corner bead last. Just my 1,2,3 method and I'm not saying my way is better than any other mexican out there.

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Tim0282

Your 1,2,3 method?
Your name doesn't really sound Mexican...

CrazyTaper

It seems every time I eat Mexican-I only have a number 2 method.

Tim0282

Smooth move, I hope.

Are there Mexicans in Wisconsin? I would think it would be too cold.

CrazyTaper

well-I don't add soap

Tim0282

I don't either. It smells funny. They use more soap in mud that they do on their bodes.

Brockster

In the last 5 or so years we've got an abundance of them. How many do you need? You can have them all!

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CrazyTaper

Up here in northeast Ohio-we are the monority

Tim0282

They do seem to be coming in droves. I have used them for hangers. A group of six will hang 300-350 sheets a day. 10 hours. Any day of the week. All screws and glue, no nails. And dead on boxes and never miss. Joints are tight and looks real good. 21 cents a foot. You can find them cheaper, but not worth the prefill. They will hang beads, scrap out and sweep for that.