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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
If I have a stubborn tape I'll staple it down with 3/8" stainless staples. Problem fixed & they will never rust. For 10"x10" patches or less, I use metal plate/ mesh patches. I buy the large contractor packs at Lowes.
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
Thanks guys. I won't tell the hacks personally but anyone can view this site so they might find out.
I am now waiting with baited breath for the next time I need to do a patch.
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
rs, The thing about the hacks they don't care what the job looks like or how long it will last, most have the Attitude of "Hey can't see it from my house!"
That's when you know so I could put out step by step and the hacks wouldn't listen cause they already know |
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting UpQuote:
Heres a great point to remember about patch work,,, when a HO asks you how long you been doing this,,,, LOOK at em, say "counting today?" then look away and and act like your counting,,,,,, really gets em fired up ,,,,hee hee About knives, tho,,, You should probbly get some blue steel knives (they are easier when your getting the hang of it,, after you get done, wash them, I like to use a sanding block to wash em with, just throw the block in the bucket of water, and then spray them LIBERALLY with WD-40, then throw them in your tool box so they aren't exsposed to the elements, and they will last for years,,, I have a wall-board 7 that I use to wipe tape with,,, they quit making this knive in 76 and it still works fine,,, just got to learn how to take care of em) Last edited by Capt-Sheetrock; 11-20-2009 at 09:03 PM. Reason: added something worthwhile |
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting UpQuote:
![]() I actually did some minor prep work and painting when I was in high school, so I could say 20 years and not be lying. ![]() ![]()
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
Thank you everyone for your help on my (blistering) issues.
I think i need to be more gentle when i apply my tape, i usually put the mud on pretty thick and then i will knife it off with a lot of pressure next time i do some i will try not scraping it so hard |
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
I figured out my tape blistering issues quite some time ago by experimenting; I had been pushing all the mud out from under the tape...that problem's been fixed. Did my best work a couple of weeks ago-ceiling fixed on third application early the second day...that's good for me :-)
question: what is the brown bag durabond and how does it differ from 'white' bag? |
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
Brown dries harder than plaster and is not meant to be sanded. I use it for first coats.
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting UpQuote:
Many many years ago I was doing a bathroom and the customer asked if I could sand and finish coat some drywall in the basement that had been started about a year earlier. Whoever had done the tape coat used Durabond 90 and overfilled - a lot - there was probably an 1/8-3/16" of mud slathered on the joints - man what a PITA to try and finish!! |
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
hmmmmm, a good drywall taper can use just about any mud and not have tape fall off. somemuds just lasts longer than others but if its falling off i would say the last thing would be the mud causing it.
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
If you can find some of Zissner's Guardz - Damaged Drywall Sealer pick up a gallon.
We tape and board most of our bathroom projects and to make them bullet proof we first tape our joints and let them dry out. Next day we give the paper tape a coat of Guardz. Any loose seams blister on the spot and with a razor the tape can be reset with the Guardz. The best thing about this technique is on the final sanding if you sand to far the guardz has sealed the tape and it doesn't fray very much. Zero call backs since we started this in our bathrooms do to steam lifting the paper tape. I believe other companies call their product wall paper repairer or something like that.
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
these type problems are no real deal if you have any time under your belt. what the hell was the qu3wstion again???
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting UpQuote:
blue steel flexes the best. Too bad the SS ones don't. |
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
Either mesh tape or quick set pretty much guaranties no blisters. I find Silverset 40 is really sticky, you'd have to screw up pretty bad to get any blisters. Otherwise, if you're using paper tape with regular cold mud, a few things that have messed me up is waiting too long before applying the tape, giving the mud time to dry out. Or having the heat turned up while mudding. Or not putting enough water in the mud, or no water, taking it right out of the box which is dumb. Besides that, I think it's just experience, like everyone else was saying.
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting UpQuote:
True, but then again mesh tape garuntees CRACKED joints. The topic is blisters,,, that supposes tape,, One of two ways to go here,, learn to tape and avoid blisters,, or use mesh and not have a problem with blisters, but be assured that your joints will crack,,,,, Oh well, at least they won't blister |
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting UpQuote:
OMG! Now I can finally say that " I've heard it all."
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
I felt that way,, but last year after I had hung a job,,, the HO came in the day I was tapeing it and said,, "I see your done hanging ,,, I guess its time to start PASTEING it" ........
I said,, thats right mamn,,,, what else could ya say ???? |
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting UpQuote:
![]() ![]() ![]() Done a church addition a few years back. One of the church ladies walked in and asked, when are you going to DOO-WOP the ceilings?
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Re: Anyone Have Tricks To Stop Tape From Lifting Up
Captain Sheetrock ROCKS!
I say so, and when I was out drinking with Angus today, he said the same thing.
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