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Old 10-19-2017, 11:49 AM   #1
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Will This Work?


The monument sign I am building is to have "columns" at each end which project out from the main structure by 4'' as in the image....
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:55 AM   #2
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Re: Will This Work?


I am planning to make the 4'' projections with 4''block like this, reinforced with the brick ties in the photo. Do I need to mortar the whole back and side of each 4'' block to get a good bond? Should I use a special mortar? Or will the type S I'm using be sufficient? Thanks!
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Should be sufficient to tie them together with the wall ties.


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I thought tubes of PL were the only way to do block work

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I thought tubes of PL were the only way to do block work

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Lol that won't work considering the part already built has mortar joints the pl system might be a little bit low


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Are you saying PL would have been better to build the whole thing?
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Are you saying PL would have been better to build the whole thing?


No he was probably referring to this

Gluing cinderblock walls with PL premium?

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Thanks, I will just keep going with the type-S mortar.
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Type S mortar should get you about 1200 + PSI mortar strength in compression, Thus 8 inch high joints a 3/4" wide on each end of the 4" Unit would give ~12 square inched of mortar or 14,400 lbs of compression before failure(evenly applied).......

Rule of thumb allows 400 PSI vertically loads, 4 x 16" CMU = 12.8 tons.

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Is the stone that you're using real stone? Or thin veneer stone?


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Is the stone that you're using real stone? Or thin veneer stone?


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Cool, keep posting pictures as it progresses! Looking good so far


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No your in florida where column block are a dime a dozen. You also need to build it for hurricanes.

Lay column block, cut keyway in to a couple of them, , cut beams into keyway, run steel continous.
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Laying it like that is sheot for florida.
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If it were me I would have transition bars into the columns too...
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If it were me I would have transition bars into the columns too...
It has #5 rebar, sunk 2.5' into the 8.5 yd monolithic foundation and sticking up 2.5' into the block. It has a bond beam of 2 parallel sticks of #5 rebar running end to end. It also has Durwall wire in every course except the one with the bond beam. When I get 4 courses higher, I will install another bond beam and when all the block is laid I will drop in #5 and #4 rebar then fill the whole thing with concrete and drop a vibrator in each hole to make sure it fills every corner and crack. If the hurricane gets it, oh well.

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Probably should've laced the 4" block in with the wall block, would never move that way. It should be fine for cultured stone though, especially with that massive foundation.

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