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Old 11-03-2017, 03:33 PM   #1
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Wet Weather Block Work


When the wall gets soaked, the mortar ends up so mushy that setting block becomes almost impossible.

If you make a dryer mix, it has bond issues.

It is what it is, or is there a solution?



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Old 11-03-2017, 04:27 PM   #2
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Cover the blocks and keep them from getting wet Before you lay them. It is almost impossible to lay soaked blocks because trying to work with dry mortar sucks

If you donít have enough tarps to cover all the block piles at least cover some of them because then you can lay one wet one then one dry block and that usually works

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Thanks. I have my pallets wrapped, (now), but the wall is still soaked.

I wanted to cover the wall with tar paper or something like that, but it's a little difficult with rebar every other core.


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Just punch plastic through the bar, it'll keep it dry enough. You gotta cover block... and brick for that matter.
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Just punch plastic through the bar, it'll keep it dry enough. You gotta cover block... and brick for that matter.
That's what I should have done.

I just thought I was going to finish before a ton of rain. But I'm not very fast, and then there's all the other work I had, so....





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Just punch plastic through the bar, it'll keep it dry enough. You gotta cover block... and brick for that matter.



Absolutely,all masonry walls need to be covered at end of each work day,winter,spring,summer and fall. All block should also be covered prior to laying. In super warm summers,with a high IRA brick,you can leave the unused cubes uncovered. Must be an skids though or mud will ruin the brick resting on the soil.
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Few block, Weed burner(s) warm and quit raining, a large fan and a few hours...

be careful, don't crack them

To cheap to poke holes in covering material + Use TWO pieces and fasten together around Rebar and or set 2x4 on both sides to nail lathes to.

Pick up cut offs of EDPM or EPO roofing 'rubber' and cut holes to match rebars C to C....

Buy dry block, KEEP EM DRY & clean = cleaner stronger walls...

Wet grouted block might take a month to dry enough to paint with some oil or epoxy coatings, and they often develop efflorescence....
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Block and wall are supposed to be covered.
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I usually figure 1/2 to 1 hour per day to make sure things are covered up nicely. A little moisture isn't so bad for block, but brick must be completely dry.
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I keep all of my materials covered from the time they're delivered. Even the materials stocked on the scaffold for the next day are covered. Doesn't take long to cover everything up in the evenings when we're cleaning up for the day
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Nothing was covered in florida, it rained every day almost and was dry in 45 mins..
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The money makers in Florida cover up, and go back to work(and home with 40 hrs/week) 45 minutes earlier...

Any way see many old threads regarding vanadium stains, dry and covered walls seem to have fewer problems. And of course, all other things being equal, drier units have a more bond/tensile strength = stronger walls.
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I agree with most of these guys. Always keep the wall and block covered.
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I usually figure 1/2 to 1 hour per day to make sure things are covered up nicely. A little moisture isn't so bad for block, but brick must be completely dry.
We pour water on the cubes in the summer...
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I usually figure 1/2 to 1 hour per day to make sure things are covered up nicely. A little moisture isn't so bad for block, but brick must be completely dry.




Actually,the converse of that is true. Block should be bone dry. Brick on the other hand,depending on the brick's IRA (there are easy field tests to determine it's approximation) should in some cases be thoroughly saturated but surface dry.
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Actually,the converse of that is true. Block should be bone dry. Brick on the other hand,depending on the brick's IRA (there are easy field tests to determine it's approximation) should in some cases be thoroughly saturated but surface dry.
Thanks. That's what I've always heard.

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X2 on the brick. I've had to wet brick piles, and even rewet when it was really hot in Texas.
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Here in frost country, sponge like brick don't take refreezing several hundred times as well as more porous units.

If you don't have enough time to level,plumb, jamb and straight edge a lead course,--pre-wet the brick

Read your ASTM brick test, especially the weight gain when soaked.....for need to pre wet the cubes of brick..

In general if you can't lay ten brick without tapping on the brick in normal conditions, PRE-wet the brick, the DAY before for maximum cleanliness, less smearing, AND cover the wet/damp brick.

Clean, Potable water, drown the cube for a few minutes, on to the next or use a sprinkler and put the labor back to work.....Cover the damp brick to keep them damp.....

Some places just Pick and dip, spread for one or two brick at a go, but it is costly.

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