Stucco Lathe Problem?

Pennyroyal's

It is my understanding metal lathe sheeting has an UP and Down position. Up giving the mud a trough to hold it, so to speak.
My new sub has installed half up and half down...randomly.
Am I going to have a problem with this?
I noticed it as I arrived on the job and the mud is going on.
My trade is carpentry and historic remodeling, not stucco.
Joe.

Tscarborough

You won't, he will. (it doesn't really matter, it is nominally easier to put mud on the wall if mounted correctly)

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Pennyroyal's

nothing like making your job that much harder...

stacker

like tscar said,your stucco wont be affected with the "upside /backwards lath"but your installer may.
when you look at the lath,you will see little cups that go in and down somewhat.that is the way you want the lath.this allows the lath to hold the mud/stucco.
now even tho the lath will hold the mud/stucco with the cups falling out.you installer will have a harder time,with the stucco or stone staying in place.

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Tscarborough

As a rule, I try and use the size of the lath more efficently than the "proper" direction of the lath.

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Snow Man

There's 2 types of wire . Lath ( with no dimples ) and stucco with.

Big difference in tooling that mud with that there wire hanging upside down backwards. What he said

If it were my job,I'd yank it and correct the situation

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Tscarborough

Here is a little secret: If you hang the lath upside down, stroke it up (or sideways or whatever way you hang it), and it isn't an issue. It is all about the correct stroke and pressure, not the orientation of the lath. For the final result it does not matter a whit.

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Snow Man

Good answer.......if you are performing the act.

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tool junkie

It doesnt take that much more effort to pay attention and put it on right in the first place. My guess is your sub is green or he had laborers that didnt know apply the lath while he was at starbucks checking out the games on his cellphone.

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Snow Man

OOOOOOOOOOOH Im seeing a little insecurity there JUNKY

lmao ... what do you do a year in plastering vs. lets say about 20-25 South Americans?

I know , you cannot compete with people who dont pay taxes , eat rice and beans 24/7 and work longer hours than the typical American.

Or you didnt know that there were 2 TWO types of wire ????

Listen , IT"S A ROUGH TRADE, cut him some slack

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stuccoman

Lath is to stucco as rebar is to concrete!

Once the mud sets it is not going anywhere.

As for an up and down direction yes there is. Which way do the run it when it is on a ceiling?

As for the mud falling of it can but a craftsman can handle it. I guess that is why is is called a trade.

The up and down is more important when the stucco is applied to a wall that has no sheathing on it.

Worry more about the moisture barrier's and flashing's!

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Snow Man

As for the mud falling of it can but a craftsman can handle it. I guess that is why is is called a trade. (stuccoman)

if it was hung properly, then the craftsman wouldn't have to work that much harder, would he?

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stuccoman

Snowman,

The lath being upside down does not make the system fail.

As for it being harder it is all hard. That is why they call it work.

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Rybit

Amen. Speaking of which the August CSI had an article about flashing for thin veneer systems. Worth the read for anyone who works with lick and stick stone or stucco.

properly installed the lathe will feel rough when you rub your hand up it and smooth when you rub your hand down it. That sounds backwards but that is the case. I worry when someone uses lathe for adhered masonry and doesn't cover ALL of the lathe with a brown coat. That galvanized lathe will could certainly rust just like galvanized roofing. I'd hate to see it in 30 years when it rusts away and the system begins to fail.