Stucco All Info Needed

erikb45

im a carpenter and im thinking of buying a ranch house and will be adding a second level. i would like to have at least the front done in stucco and im looking for all the info from price per square foot, to best brand, to proper installation. so i know what to expect and how to keep track that the contractor is doing the right way. im concerned about water and moisture preention. any quality stucco guys want to respond im on long island and will be looking to hiring someone down the line. thanks in advance

erikb45

wow this great forum and nobody has any info or advice for me. theres got to be someone out there who has knowledge on stucco eifs

Tscarborough

Your question is too broad. Study it a bit, and ask specific questions, and I will be happy to make an attempt to answer.

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kc4mqm

Well, evidently prices differ from state to state. I charge $6 a sq ft for hardcoat stucco and $5 for synthetic. I like the hardcoat better as far as durability goes but they both have their advantages. I would recomend staying away from foam though. Not only was there all those issues a while back with termites, but it traps moister as well. This will lead to mold and all kinds of junk. This is just my oppinion and what I've seen over the years. Ask away about anything I missed, I've been out of the stucco scene since the early 90's but just recently done 2 jobs with it. We used to do a lot though.

Dave Buskirk

Can you tell me a little more about synthetic stucco? Advantages & disadvantages.

erikb45

thanks kc for responding.

what is hard coat ? is that the old school stuff before theifs?

skyhook

Out here Stucco is sold by Plaster Yards, measure your run and figure 9 feet up. For Lathe, Scratch, brown and color coats. 2 story is double or more plaster yards.

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Boobka

Hi,
I did couple of commercial projects with stucco, but i always used the foam. Its because the original walls were really bumpy and with foam i can level it out. Its been few years already and i havent heard of any problems. I charge about $6 per sq. ft on commercial and about $7 for residential.That price is labor and material. If you want to go fancy with whole bunch of different trim, it would go by the linear foot for the trim. If you have wooden frame i would use the EIFS, with tyvek under the foam.
I hope this was any help to you. I service New York, email me if you have any questions.

kc4mqm

That is the old school stuff, but it's also about the best kind to use in my opinion. Me personaly, I don't like anything fake. It's basicly just mortar and lime. I add a little acrylic to give it more strength. The synthetic coat on the other hand ages better. Some of the old stucco starts to deteriate after a while, crumble and fall off in places. The synthetic is more weather resistant and doesn't deteriate as quickly. What I would recomend is the hard coat scratch with a sythetic or dryvit finish. This way you have the durability of hard coat and life of synthetic. Hope this helps.

EIFS101

EIFS, STUCCO

Install standard EIFS $9 - $10 / sq. ft.
Install EIFS with drainage system $10-$15 / sq. ft
Install a conventional stucco system (sand & cement) $9 - $10 / sq. ft.
All detail bands are time+material+profit T+M+P
Waterproof block foundations $155 / lin. ft.

EIFS is far superior to traditional stucco for many reasons. R-value is better, curb appeal is better, maintenance is easier. Stucco is basically concrete, 1" vertical concrete to be exact. gravity has a way of wreaking havoc on stucco and cracks are inevitable. The EIFS lamina is only 3/8" so cracking is not common. The fiberglass mesh plays a role but so does the polymer modied basecoat and finish.

I wouldn't put EIFS finish on sand and cement stucco unless you prime the wall first. If you don't you will have to deal with delamination in the future. hard-coat is sand and cement, 3 to 1 ratio, that's alot of sand and the finish will not bond well at all. In my area alot of builders like to have eifs finish on the foundation and invariably the mortar joints pop up in a couple of years. Mortar being sand and cement and all.

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thom

Prices sure vary. I pay $16/sq yard for synthetic. That's $1.78 per sq ft.

That includes paper, brown, and finish. The brown is a one coat system, glass fibers embedded in the mix.