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Smoke And Mirrors
I was looking through the March issue of Garden Design magazine today. I opened a page that is an add for a manufacturer of imitation stone. It is a close up of the work. The stone is like what we know as Pennsylvania field stone. I was struck that most each stone had a thin crack between the stone and mortar. And a good number of the cracks run stone to stone.
I immediately pulled back and thought why would anyone use this picture. I did some things and then it dawned on me! This is imitation stone the cracks are only imitation and don't mean what they would if this was stacked stone.
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
As a student of distressed masonry, I did not understand what you said. Does the stone come in sheets, with the mortar joint included and precracked?!
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
Tscar,
Excuse my ignorance but this is a layed up stone. Cultured stone?
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
Cultured Stone is individual rocks, not sheets. They show a picture of the laid up stone with cracks between the stone and the mortar? What is the name, maybe they will have the same pic online?
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
Eldorado.
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
I sell and install Eldorado, as well as Cultured Stone, and haven't noticed the picture you are talking about. It could not have been intentional, though. Probably some marketing wonk without a clue.
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors i have made and installed phoney stone since 1977.the only time i have seen a crack in the mortar is when i have grouted up againest wood trim,and a haor line crack forms from shrinkage.if the stone is installed right,there should be a bond as good as real stone or brick.no cracks or holes.
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
The March issue of Garden Design.
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
I'm famaliar with the Eldorado product.
It's made right down the road. ![]()
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
You photos are just as enigmatic as the original post. I am no less confused than I was before you posted them.
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
If the pic looked too good the customer would be disappointed.
http://eldoradostone.com/faq/img/02.jpg Last edited by tkle; 04-22-2008 at 11:55 AM. |
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
that pic posted by tkle,looks to me like a display panel,that has been moved one too many times.when we had our plant we made panels to take to home shows and such.they cracked in places like that,so thats where i am getting what i am saying.i dont belive itwas layed to look cracked.
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
After all what do you expect to happen when it is attached to a moving wooden framed wall. If it is applied to masonry wall very few to no cracks however.
not a fan of cultured stoned but gotta do what pays. ha
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
After all what do you expect to happen when it is attached to a moving wooden framed wall. If it is applied to masonry wall very few to no cracks however.
not a fan of cultured stoned but gotta do what pays. ha
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Re: Smoke And Mirrors
I looked through some of their lit. at work today, and there are many pictures showing cracks like that. No big deal, so long as it is over a scratch coat or hardi-plank, and 99% of the populace would not notice it. I will add that when I build or supply mock-ups or sample panels, I do not do my best work or provide pristine materials.
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